I'm not interested in carrying on the SAME arguments with you once again. You claim you believe in salvation by the grace of God and not by works yet you contradict yourself by posting passages out of context and misinterpreting them to try to make Scripture contradict itself! You also FALSELY accuse me and others of saying that sin doesn't matter with God and people can just live as they please in wanton disobedience to Him because they think they will still go to heaven. No matter how many times we have been over this, you revert right back to your false accusations. I know good and well that your religion teaches an accursed gospel and you think keeping the Law is how you are justified. Then, you go even further and insist that everyone who is justified MUST keep the commandments in the same way as you do (e.g.; Saturday worship and not Sunday).
Why do you refuse to answer when I ask you, "What saves you? Your faith or your works."? Scripture is crystal clear that it is by the grace of God we are saved THROUGH faith and not our works. Why do you then insist disobedience to the commandments will make one lose their salvation? If you can lose your salvation by what you do (works) then those works must be what saves you. Are you blind to this contradiction? I repeat, we are created in Christ Jesus unto good works which God has foreordained for us to walk in them. We demonstrate our new, sanctified, born from above spirit nature by how we live in holiness glorifying God. But it is NEVER these works that save us. Anyone who claims to be a believer in Jesus Christ as Savior but who has no evidence of a changed heart or conviction of sin, should examine himself to see if he really is in the faith. But it is NOT his works that save him! It's either grace OR works - not both.
What did Paul say to the Corinthian believers? Post the rest of the passage:
If I told you once, I’ve told you a thousand times…salvation is by FAITH ALONE. Salvation cannot be earned by any means. However, faith without works is a DEAD faith. Jesus Christ actually calls one a LIAR if they claim salvation by faith, and then don’t OBEY Him out of love for what He did. THEN, Paul warns us what will happen if we WILLFULLY SIN AFTER WE HAVE RECEIVED KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, while professing our faith (salvation…DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE, after receiving the truth):
Hebrews 10:
23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
….26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins
I obey Christ BECAUSE I love Him for what He did for me on the cross. We are COMMANDED to be holy and obey if we claim salvation through Christ. You might as well spit in His face if you WILLFULLY commit sin after claiming salvation…despite unto the Spirit of grace (v 26). THAT is why Christ hated the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. And, one will certainly lose that salvation if they go down that path. I wonder how many Nicolaitans lost their salvation believing on once saved, always saved?
Can one can still go to heaven if they say they love Christ, yet refuse to keep His commandments? No! THEY ARE CALLED LIARS. That is made crystal clear in the bible.
Following Christ, AFTER CLAIMING SALVATION THROUGH GRACE means DOING SOMETHING (action). It means following Him wherever he goes. It means obeying His word. It means works. It means KEEPING HIS COMMANDMENTS. We are set apart for holy use and following Him means living a holy life. Teaching once saved, always saved is nothing more than an abomination of God’s gift of Salvation.
I don’t know what kind of Christian teaches that one who claims salvation through faith, and THEN rapes, commits adultery, fraud, embezzlement, lies, despite being sanctified, IS STILL GOING TO HEAVEN? (well, you do, right?)
The whole duty of a Christian is to keep God’s commandments and OBEY. THAT is the true test of love for Christ.
John 14:21 Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him.”
John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love.
1 John 2:3 By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,
THAT is the basis of the NEW COVENANT. Lawlessness will not be tolerated and those who commit lawlessness will not be in heaven. If you say you know/love Him but don’t keep his commandments, you are a liar. Absolutely clear.
KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS
https://biblehub.com/library/orr/how_to_live_a_holy_life/keeping_the_commandments.htm
(more to come)
What did Paul say to the Corinthian believers? Post the rest of the passage:
You must think that I’m your pet monkey? If you have something to say, SAY IT! Stop with the organ grinding.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. AND THAT IS WHAT SOME OF YOU WERE. BUT YOU WERE WASHED, YOU WERE SANCTIFIED, YOU WERE JUSTIFIED, IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND BY THE SPIRIT OF OUR GOD.
Now, let’s revisit Hebrews 10 and specifically focus on v29.
23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
....shall he be thought worthy
....and hath counted the blood of the covenant
....wherewith HE WAS SANCTIFIED
....and hath done DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE
Sanctified, saved by Grace. But, NOT GOING TO HEAVEN if willfully sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth. THERE REMAINETH NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS.
....”And that is what some of you were.” They were living in sin, they received the truth, they were then living holy lives and keeping God’s commandments. And if they revert back to a life of willful sin, AFTER RECEIVING KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH?
THERE REMAINETH NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS. They will not be in heaven.
Once saved, always saved IS A LIE, being taught by (almost) every Christian denomination/bible believing church in the world.
Romans 1:
17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
....For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; (WHO HOLD THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTIOUSNESS)
....who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them
....who changed the truth of God into a lie
....because that, when they knew God
....professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
Once saved, always saved is a lie.
If you can lose your salvation by what you do (works) then those works must be what saves you. Are you blind to this contradiction?
“And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS.” Revelation 20:12.