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To: SmokingJoe
Well FSB is not controlled by Stalin for starters like the NKVD was.

Are you saying the KGB did not commit atrocities? Low estimates place the number of victims placed into gulags by the KGB in the several millions. The KGB put down the Hungarians in 1956, the Prague Spring in 1968, routinely used violence and murdered countless numbers of people who merely wanted to be free, including artists, writers, and public figures in other countries outside of Russia. The KGB created modern terrorism from Carlos the Jackal to the Palestinians. Alexander Litvinenko, the fellow poisoned with Polonium 210, even calls Al-Qaeda a front of Russian intelligence, with its number 2 having been trained in an FSB camp:

A. Litvinenko: The bloodiest terrorists in the world were or are agents of the KGB-FSB. These are well-known, like Carlos Ilyich Ramiros, nicknamed "the Jackal," the late Yassir Arafat, Saddam Hussein, Adjalan (he is condemned in Turkey), Wadi Haddad, the head of the service of external operations of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Hauyi, the head of the communist party of Lebanon, Mr. Papaionnu from the Cyprus, Sean Garland from Ireland and many others. All of them were trained by the KGB, received money from there, weapons and explosives, counterfeit documents and a communication equipment for carrying out acts of terrorism worldwide.

FAKT: Some may object that each of the listed figures, and the forces supporting them, were engaged in solving their own political problems.

A. Litvinenko: Certainly, all these figures and movements operated under their own slogans; however, none of them especially hid their "intimate" ... relationship with the Kremlin and Lubyanka. There is a simple question: whether the Russian special services would train and finance people and groups that were not supervised by Lubyanka and did not serve the interests of the Kremlin? You understand perfectly, they would not. Each act of terrorism made by these people was carried out as an assignment and under the rigid control of the KGB of the USSR. And [the terrorism] ... is not casual after the disintegration of the USSR and [reform of the KGB]....

FAKT: Every terrorist you have named is from 'the old staff' of the KGB. Could you name someone from recent history?

A. Litvinenko: Certainly, here it is. The number two person in the terrorist organization al Qaeda, who they are crediting with the series of explosions in London, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is an old agent of the FSB. Being sentenced to death in Egypt for terrorism and hunted by Interpol, Ayman al-Zawahiri, in 1998, was in the territory of Dagestan, where for half a year he received special training at one of the educational bases of the FSB. After this training he was transferred to Afghanistan, where he had never been before and where, following the recommendation of his Lubyanka chiefs, he at once ... penetrated the milieu of bin Laden and soon became his assistant in al Qaeda.

FAKT: Could you hint at least, where this data comes from?

A. Litvinenko: I can. During my service in one of the most secret departments of the FSB, top officials from the UFSB of Dagestan, who had directly worked with Ayman al-Zawahiri ... were called to Moscow and received high posts.

http://www.konzervativnistrana.cz/temata/prispevek/article/is-al-qaeda-a-kremlin-proxy.html

I dont care if they operate from the same building or FSB was descended from NKVD

It's enough that the FSB is the direct successor of the KGB, that was killing countless people all the way up to the fall of the Berlin wall and even after that, and is manned by essentially the same people.

41 posted on 12/26/2021 5:28:20 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Are you saying the KGB did not commit atrocities?

I am saying the exact opposite. Read what I wrote again. And learn to understand English.

42 posted on 12/26/2021 5:38:42 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
It's enough that the FSB is the direct successor of the KGB, that was killing countless people

Except it isn't. You cannot compare the FSB to the NKVD.

and is manned by essentially the same people

It isn't. The people who run the NKVD are quite different from the people running the FSB today.
And they were totally different times.

43 posted on 12/26/2021 5:43:29 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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