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To: Hebrews 11:6; etabeta
#16, Seghers was also a "Caravaggisti" and I was also struck by the familiarity. Quite amazing.

It occurs to me that these paintings, etc., are what essentially amounts to tv or movies (for their time)...iow, they were meant to be studied and analyzed - to a far more serious degree than I ever realized before. If for nothing else, thanks for that Dan & (((everyone))).

As I've learned the significance of clothing/style relative to the time & culture & that it has symbolic meaning...I wonder what the 'onesies' in #10 are. (?)

This group of works is jarring (#8 is uuuhhhhgggleee). For all its economy and starkness, #10, Fra Angelico is almost the worst to me...the spittle, the stick-holder pushing down on the crown of thorns. There's so much to see in that 'spare' work. Mary's one hand to her cheek, the other rising in resignation/acceptance. Just wow.

The genius of Tissot in #2? Yeah, he paints us as the judges.

9 posted on 08/24/2021 8:07:28 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: spankalib
I offered my back to those who beat me,
my cheeks to those who pulled out my beard;
I did not hide my face
from mocking and spitting.
10 posted on 08/24/2021 8:08:41 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: spankalib

Tissot also got the size of the Sanhedrin right in #2, about 70 members.


12 posted on 08/24/2021 8:14:49 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Watch "THE CHOSEN," about Jesus & the disciples He chose: https://watch.angelstudios.com/thechosen)
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To: spankalib; Hebrews 11:6

Those “onesies” in #10 were probably undergarments. I have seen medieval paintings of laborers wearing these types of breeches while working the fields in the hot sun. These breeches varied in length and were closed with a drawstring or belt at the waist. In this particular painting I wonder if beating Jesus in your underwear was an additional insult.


13 posted on 08/24/2021 8:40:25 AM PDT by etabeta
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To: spankalib

“It occurs to me that these paintings, etc., are what essentially amounts to tv or movies (for their time)...iow, they were meant to be studied and analyzed - to a far more serious degree than I ever realized before. If for nothing else, thanks for that Dan & (((everyone))).”

Yes, I agree and I thank Dan & everyone for pouring your attention into these threads. Some years ago my daughter took an art appreciation class and I learned EVERYTHING in a painting is intentional and has a purpose. Knowing the cultural setting of the painter and his patron and the specific reason for it makes everything clearer. Artists also put in ‘Easter eggs’, surprises for attentive and discerning viewers.


16 posted on 08/24/2021 7:13:34 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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