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To: Cronos
"If our Lord meant this to be symbolic, He has an odd way of showing it. If someone mistakes your words for literal when you mean them to be symbolic, what you certainly do not do is rephrase yourself in a more stringently literal fashion."

Rather, as in other places before this, after testing the hearers with seemingly physical language (birth, water, temple) in order to lead true seekers into spiritual Truth, in John 6 the progression, as explained, to toward the spiritual understanding. As ignored,

Had those carnally-minded Jews in John 6, who were looking for physical food, continued on in seeking the spiritual meaning, then they would understood, "As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me," (John 6:57) And "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." (John 6:63)

For just how did Christ "live by the Father"? The answer is that the manner by which the Lord lived by the Father was as per Mt. 4:4: "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Thus for the Lord Jesus who lived by every word of God and said were are to, (Mt. 4:4) the doing of His will was "meat."

For once again using metaphor, the Lord stated to disciples who thought He was referring to physical bread, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. (John 4:34) And likewise the Lord revealed that He would not even be with them physically in the future (which the lost Jews presumed would be needed under a literal meaning), but that His words which transcendent time and space are Spirit and life: “What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” (John 6:62-63) Indeed, "hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness." (Isaiah 55:2)

For as with the rest of John and Scripture, it is faith which obtains spiritual life by believing the gospel. As John esp. makes clear, contrary to consuming flesh. Thus as Peter affirmed, "thou hast the words of eternal life." (John 6:68)

"Trogon (τρώγω), unlike phago, has one very, specific, literal meaning: to gnaw, crunch or chew. It is a univocal term with a single meaning. "

Actually the word is used for simply eating bread, even by Judas, and by common eating even by lost souls in Noah's day!

I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth [trōgō] bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.(John 13:18)

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, (Matthew 24:38)

Rather desperate, while again, the Holy Spirit only and always taught that that spiritual life was obtained by receiving the word of the gospel, and never shows this was by actual physical ingestion of anything. And the way Christ lived by the Father which He likened to how believers are to live (John 6:53) was by His word, (Mt. 4:4) doing His will, this being His "meat." (John 4:34)

Enough of your plagiarizing prevaricating profuse propaganda.

34 posted on 08/23/2021 5:56:32 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212
"Enough of your plagiarizing prevaricating profuse propaganda."

When he was about 4 years old, my son called this, "a little raisin".

It took mom and me a LONG time to figure out what he was talking about!

He turned out to be an excellent author, reader, and person.

42 posted on 08/23/2021 7:54:45 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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