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To: Petrosius; Cronos

Are you saying that a person who is born again in Christ is incapable of sinning?


Yes, they are saying that.

A while back there was a lengthy discussion about this EXACT topic. I’m going to ping Cronos to this and ask if he can find the link (I can’t do it right now because I’ve got 2 more nights in a row to work). So Cronos, if you could do that it would certainly clarify what these people believe, as unbelievable and unscriptural as it may sound.

Yes, some believe that “born again’s” cannot sin. Some believe that even if they can sin, it won’t affect them in the least. Sin all you want and they are still going to heaven. We talked about Ravi Zacharias and the accusations against him, if true (rape, adultry, embezzlement, etc...and I’m not saying he did it.) Many said that even if every accusation was true, RAVI WILL BE IN HEAVEN, because he was already sealed and NOTHING can change that (not judging, just using him as an example).

That’s what MHGinTN and others on this forum believe (your soul/flesh can sin but your spirit can’t). So, let your flesh sin all it wants to. You are still going go heaven.

To them, it comes down to once saved, always saved, no matter how much willful sin may be committed AFTER one’s conversion to Christ. And of course, their complete misunderstanding of everything Paul says about the law (to fit their justification that they are not required to keep the commandments/law).


61 posted on 08/05/2021 6:03:31 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

The problem is that Protestantism has backed themselves into a corner on this this question. They are forced to hold two contradictory answers simultaneously: both “yes” and “no.” Whichever way they answer leads to a dead end, so they try to avoid answering. I asked the question to force the issue.


62 posted on 08/05/2021 6:36:51 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Philsworld
Are you saying that a person who is born again in Christ is incapable of sinning?
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Yes, they are saying that.

NO ONE I know who is born again says such a thing!

If someone said it to you, they are in error and do not know God's Word.

If someone said it to me, I would point them to the truth.

So, you should keep from making the blanket claim. It would be the honest thing to do.

100 posted on 08/05/2021 5:57:40 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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