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To: Philsworld; SouthernClaire; boatbums; MHGinTN; daniel1212

You claim that it’s not your job to judge a person’s repentance or true conversion, and then not only do it but DEMAND that everyone else do it too.

Nor are you are any master of logic.

You are starting with a false premise, that is that someone can be formally saved and unrepentant and thus any attempt you make at a logical argument crashes and burns before it gets off the ground.

Someone who is formally saved is not an unrepentant sinner. By definition, someone who is saved has already repented. That’s how they got saved; they turned from sin to Christ.

If they are an unrepentant sinner, then they are not saved.

Also, God never in Scripture refers to a saved person as an unrepentant sinner, or even a sinner. God recognizes the saved and labels them as saints.

So your pitiful hypothetical doesn’t even get off the ground.

As far as your hypotheticals go, if that’s the best you can do to try to discredit Scripture and the security of the believer, then you have a pretty weak case. When you have to make up what if scenarios, it’s simply for the ability to be able to declare victory when someone else doesn’t answer in the way that you want and that doesn’t work.

You also seem awfully obsessed with the idea of being able to sin with impunity and rape and murder to your heart’s content, or live like Ravi, whom you are also obsessed with. And just what is the point of that?

Are you looking for justification of your own lifestyle choices? Do you want us to say that sure, you’re saved, so you can then continue in that kind of lifestyle and breathe easy?

Instead of worrying so much about others, fictional or not, perhaps you need to focus on yourself and your own lifestyle choices because you need to answer to God for you, not for others.

And don’t be a hypocrite and demand others do what you claim is not your job.


413 posted on 08/22/2021 12:00:07 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…. )
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To: metmom

As far as your hypotheticals go, if that’s the best you can do to try to discredit Scripture and the security of the believer, then you have a pretty weak case.


To you, once saved, always saved means just that. It doesn’t matter what kind of life a Christian lives AFTER their conversion (Ravi principle). No penalty for unrepentant sin. Oh, there is? THEN WHAT IS IT?


417 posted on 08/22/2021 6:54:01 AM PDT by Philsworld
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