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To: SouthernClaire; MHGinTN

Oh. So you do what the rest of us do when we sin.

**If “the rest of us” are REPENTANT, yes.

You keep inserting the word “unrepentant” or some form of it in your posts as if we are unrepentant of our sin when we screw up just like you and then we ask for forgiveness.

**I’m not accusing anyone of being “unrepentant”. That’s God’s job, not mine. I am simply pointing out that those who are judged as UNREPENTANT, by God, will not be in heaven, even though your side says THE EXACT OPOSITE. Once saved always saved is a LIE. If a formally saved Christian reverts back to their sinning ways and are then UNREPENTANT, and die in UNREPENTANT sin, THEY WILL NOT BE IN HEAVEN.

THAT is my point.


356 posted on 08/21/2021 3:34:40 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
And your 'point' is equal to saying salvation is either a yoyo or you aren't saved until you die and some conference arrangement deems you worthy. AND THAT IS A DEMONIC LIE! You are pushing works based sawlvation, even as you are tyoodumb to realize it! GOD gives eternal life by His abidign presence int he born again spirit. He separates the born again spirit from the sin-laden souol/behavior mechanism so that He abides where there is ONLY righteousness.

JESUS, God with us, paid the spiritula penalty for ALL sin. And HE has said clearoly to have His GRace you must believe, then He does the work of separating your spirit from your sin-laden soul and comes to abide in that newly born human spirit you have committed to Him by your BEKLIEF. Apparently you, Phil, do not believe Jesu7s apid the entuire ransome for sin, the spiritual penalty due for sin. That amounts to you do not believe and have not been born from above. Do soemthign about that right now! Believe He paid it all, past, present, and future. hIS gRACE IS OPEN TO all WHO WILL BELIEVE. yOU WANT TO ATTACH STRINGS TO ACHIEVE WORTHINESS. sTOP IT! jUST BELIEVE AND he WILL HANDLE THE REST.

362 posted on 08/21/2021 4:13:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Philsworld

I understand your position, Phil. I think what you’re failing to see is that if a person is truly a Christian they WILL be repentant. Also, it SEEMS as if you are willing to give a Christian so many attempts to stop a sinful habit before you call them out, so to speak, or believe they are condemned to hell.

For the sake of argument, suppose God saves a drunkard or dope addict. Some things God removes the taste for by the sinner immediately. Others have to grow. We all have growing to do when it comes to sanctification. ALL of us.

Suppose the saved Christian is saved on a Wednesday and then fails: he is drunk by Friday evening. He awakens Saturday morn with the burden we all know when we sin, and he hates himself for having gotten drunk. He asks God to forgive him with repentant tears running down his cheeks. How many times before you say the man is unrepentant?


365 posted on 08/21/2021 4:47:18 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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