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How We lost The Bible
The Catholic Thing ^ | 8-4-2021 | Casey Chalk

Posted on 08/04/2021 2:19:35 PM PDT by MurphsLaw

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How we let them use The Bible against us...


1 posted on 08/04/2021 2:19:35 PM PDT by MurphsLaw
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To: MurphsLaw

On judgement day, you will stand alone in front of the God of the universe and be held to account for every action, inaction, and thought of your life. Every single human. In that terrible moment, when you will have to examine your own life and compare it to perfection, only one person other than yourself will be able to speak on your behalf.

Jesus

Not your parents, not your spouse, not your neighbors, not your children, not your priest or pastor. Just Jesus. And if Jesus counts you as one of his, that will make all of the difference for eternity.

I highly recommend that you make the effort to learn what it takes to be counted as one of his disciples. The howto on becoming a disciple can be found in the New Testament of the Bible.


2 posted on 08/04/2021 2:32:08 PM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: MurphsLaw

John Wycliffe, esteemed by Protestants as the “Morning Star” of the Reformation, argued that “the pope ought, as he formerly was, to be subject to Caesar.” The monarch would then employ “doctors and worshipers of the divine law” to interpret the Bible. Martin Luther also called for the German princes to wrest ecclesial power away from corrupt bishops and the Roman pontiff, and grant him unequaled interpretive authority. Indeed, Luther asked the prince of Saxony to expel fellow reformer Andreas Bodenstein von Karlstadt because of the latter’s radical teachings. Around the same time, Machiavelli viewed the biblical text as material for furthering secular political ends.”

Twisted in only the way that Scott Hahn can....


3 posted on 08/04/2021 2:38:05 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: taxcontrol

Nice fantasy but not Biblical.


4 posted on 08/04/2021 2:38:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: taxcontrol

powerfully and simply stated, well done


5 posted on 08/04/2021 2:42:50 PM PDT by SteelPSUGOP
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To: MHGinTN; taxcontrol

..beginning with the absence of the judgement seat of Christ and ending with the missing Gospel of your salvation. Other than that...


6 posted on 08/04/2021 2:45:34 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBO THE MASK)
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To: MurphsLaw

Exodus 21:22 - 25

22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.


7 posted on 08/04/2021 3:10:04 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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First use of the sentence The original phrase, "Salus extra ecclesiam non est" ("there is no salvation out of the Church"), comes from Letter LXXII of Cyprian of Carthage (d. 258). The letter was written in reference to a particular controversy as to whether it was necessary to baptize applicants who had been previously baptized by heretics. In Ad Jubajanum de haereticis baptizandis, Cyprian tells Jubaianus of his conviction that baptism conferred by heretics is not valid.[6] Firmilian (died c. 269) agreed with Cyprian, reasoning that those who are outside the Church and do not have the Holy Spirit cannot admit others to the Church or give what they do not possess.[7] Cyprian was not expressing a theory on the eternal fate of all baptized and non-baptized persons.[8]


Seems very similar to Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists and used the clause "separation of church and state" within and it got highjacked by the enemy of America for a political purpose .... and STILL not adjudicated correctly ....

It has entered the realm of "tradition"al usage.

8 posted on 08/04/2021 3:16:23 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: MurphsLaw

This article starts out with lies.

Scripture forbids men dressing as women.

Unborn children are referred to as people and we aren’t allowed to murder people.

Never does it endorse racial reparations of any kind. Restitution of actual personal theft, yes.


9 posted on 08/04/2021 3:20:24 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: MurphsLaw

Well, this is a bit strange to be posting on this Catholic-owned website. But Jerome (the one who translated the Vulgate bible) was not at all capable or competent as a translator. My point is that a LOT of the Bible was never translated correctly until Tyndale, Wycliffe, King James edition (and even the KJ has some problem areas).
Aa-aa-annn-nd, a lot of Catholic teachings rely on (or were justified by) the Jerome Vulgate translation.
Seems like every generation is on the verge of losing the faith. Do you think God is aware?


10 posted on 08/04/2021 3:29:22 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: smvoice

Perhaps you missed the point that I made in my comment that Jesus will be the only one who can speak for you. That is the judgment of Christ.

Clarification question about your comment where you mention “Gospel of your salvation”. How would giving an account of all of your actions and thoughts -not- be included? It seems to me that when one has to give account, that contained in that accounting, their story of their acceptance of Christ as their savior (or not) would be apart of that accounting.


11 posted on 08/04/2021 3:31:58 PM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: MHGinTN

And the buybull isn’t...


12 posted on 08/04/2021 3:32:18 PM PDT by Misitheus
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To: Persevero
This article starts out with lies.

Scripture forbids men dressing as women.

Unborn children are referred to as people and we aren’t allowed to murder people.

Never does it endorse racial reparations of any kind. Restitution of actual personal theft, yes.

Perhaps with a quick read you missed the line:

Such claims can be found virtually everywhere in corporate media like the Washington Post, New York Times, or CNN, which seek to promote the various political objectives of the Democratic Party.
The author was stating that these were false claims made by the left.
13 posted on 08/04/2021 3:46:24 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Honest Nigerian
But Jerome (the one who translated the Vulgate bible) was not at all capable or competent as a translator.

ROFL

14 posted on 08/04/2021 3:49:51 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: taxcontrol
Do you know what the Gospel of the Grace of God IN CHRIST means?

Those who are IN CHRIST are no longer accounted as sinners for the blood of Christ cleanses from AOLL unrighteousness. Thus those in Christ will not be stood up at the gReat White Throne to give account for they have been judged already in Christ and are, not will be, ARE a new creation. John explained that the born again have GOD abiding in their come-alive spirit, which means they are already living eternal life. There is therefore NOW no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, for they HAVE passed from death into Life, the life of God is abiding in their spirit.

15 posted on 08/04/2021 3:52:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: taxcontrol

So are you talking about the judgement Seat of Christ in or the White Throne Judgement?
Because the Judgement Seat of Christ is only for believers, and it’s for rewwrdsy, not salvation. The Great White Throne Judgement is for unbelievers and is for neither rewards nor salvation. It is for showing the lost just why they are lost.

At the JSoC there is no accounting. That was done at the Cross and those who believe we’re declared not guilty of the moment they accepted Christ’s finished work for themselves.


16 posted on 08/04/2021 3:57:34 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBO THE MASK)
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“rewwrdsy” SHOULD be “rewards”

Jeez.. *😳*!


17 posted on 08/04/2021 4:00:08 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBO THE MASK)
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To: smvoice

We knew what you meant to write. You got it Sister. see you in the clouds.


18 posted on 08/04/2021 4:02:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

MARANATHA!


19 posted on 08/04/2021 4:04:01 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBO THE MASK)
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To: smvoice

“Christ’s finished work” The greatest release from the chains of religious legalism Bondage there is.

Accepted Christ at 14, tried to “earn” my salvation for 12 years. When the Finished Work on the Cross was made known to me, the chains fell off and I have been free in Christ ever since.

When my mom was on her death bead, she cried in fear to her preachers that she was not sure she would be saved because “I haven’t done enough!”

THEY assured her she had. How did they know.

I wanted to scream “IT is not what YOU have done for Christ, it is what CHRIST has done for YOU!”


20 posted on 08/04/2021 4:13:37 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (30 days! FB jail for mentioning a Monty Python script about tranneys, and the 1936 Olympics.)
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