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Good thing the infallible Pope is able to correct the mistakes of the former infallible Pope so Catholics can be certain of their traditions
Triablogue ^ | 7-16-2021 | Peter Pike

Posted on 07/17/2021 6:57:18 AM PDT by fishtank

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To: NKP_Vet

The catholic cannon was not set until after some of the protestant ones. But tell yourself what you wish. God inspired and set Scripture


41 posted on 07/17/2021 11:25:12 AM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

The teaching of the Church of Rome changes. Remember when limbo existed? How low can you go?


42 posted on 07/17/2021 2:45:34 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Republican politicans love being in office, Democrat politicians love being in power.)
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To: circlecity

Actually, the council of Florence, a bit more than 100 years before Trent (and ~50 years before Luther), listed the same canon as Trent did.


43 posted on 07/17/2021 3:03:07 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Old Yeller

There was never any defined teaching about the limbo of infants. It was always just a theological opinion with a strong pedigree. The limbo of the fathers is mentioned, though not under that name, in Scripture.


44 posted on 07/17/2021 3:05:40 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Campion

That’s only 1000 years after the canon had been acknowledged


45 posted on 07/17/2021 3:07:46 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: fishtank

The Pope has absolute power over the Liturgy. But that power is NOT an infallible.

Infallibility is only applicable to matters of faith and morals. Further to be infallible, the teaching must meet certain conditions.


46 posted on 07/17/2021 5:33:52 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: Romulus

The Vatican can’t even read and understand the letter that Paul the apostle wrote to them.

Paul’s letter to the Romans teaches salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.

Paul also teaches against Replacement theology in chapters 9-11.

The Vatican RCC couldn’t even learn these lessons from Paul.


47 posted on 07/17/2021 7:24:50 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: Marchmain; Jim from C-Town; AndyTheBear

If the Assumption is considered infallible teaching,
that’s an example of the failure of infallibility.

The Assumption is an unwarranted unBiblical assumption.


48 posted on 07/18/2021 7:03:16 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Hence we see why Catholics have to sometimes use the “caucus” designation.


49 posted on 07/18/2021 9:42:50 AM PDT by Marchmain (TLM refugee)
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To: AndyTheBear

The Pope is not infallible about all doctrine. There arer strictures on when the Pope is considered infallible in the Church.


50 posted on 07/18/2021 10:00:44 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: G Larry

Do you have a list of what is considered “ex cathedra”?


51 posted on 07/18/2021 2:30:35 PM PDT by fishtank
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True, the Reformed have the problem that Luther opened the flood gates (unintended consequences) and today you have 10,000 flavors of Christianity , since after all, anyone can interpret the meaning of things on their own.

Of course the problem is that we are full of sin, and when we interpret the Bible ourselves, we tend to go off course. Even a theologian and someone dedicated to the faith needs a course correction from time to time.

With the reformed you end up with a lesbo female pastrix marrying other homo couples (of course): https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thebostoncalendar.com%2Fsystem%2Fevents%2Fphotos%2F000%2F097%2F602%2Foriginal%2FNadia_Bolz-Weber_web.jpg%3F1474553427&f=1&nofb=1

Irony is, Luther was conservative (he wanted to expel some of the stuff that was wrong, like selling indulgences, requiring celibacy), he never wanted to break away form the Catholic church. The break transpired as usual, out of greed. Some (the power brokers in Northern Germany) saw a break with the church as a way to avoid having to pay Rome. If he saw what some of the churches bearing his name today preach... What sort of creatures are leading...


52 posted on 07/18/2021 6:22:50 PM PDT by Red6
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To: fishtank
There is no set list of ex cathedra teachings, but that’s because there are only two, and both are about Mary: her Immaculate Conception (declared by Pope Pius IX in 1854 and grandfathered in after the First Vatican Council’s declaration of papal infallibility in 1870) and her bodily Assumption into heaven (declared by Pope Pius XII in 1950).

But neither of these was earth-shattering to Roman Catholics, because these beliefs had been nurtured through devotion, prayer, and local teaching for centuries before becoming official papal teaching.

Ex cathedra is the theological term for a teaching that has been declared infallibly by the Roman Pontiff. In short, ex cathedra means that the pope can explicate an article of divine revelation under the guidance of the Holy Spirit and in full possession of his role as Peter’s successor. When he does so he is protected from error. This ex cathedra possibility was supported by the Second Vatican Council. However, this does not mean that every time the pope speaks he is speaking infallibly.

https://uscatholic.org/articles/201105/is-there-a-list-of-infallible-teachings/

53 posted on 07/19/2021 3:26:54 PM PDT by G Larry (Force the Universities to use their TAX FREE ENDOWMENTS to pay off Student loan debt!!!)
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