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To: MHGinTN

His gift to us is, free will to choose Him or not.
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A few thoughts:

1) Why is free will so important to us? Do some real soul searching on that. Does it not mean the tree of knowledge of good and evil where we decide? Do we really want that tree? evidently we do. Adam and Eve couldn’t chose the right tree, do you think you are better than them?

2) Yes, God does give us free will and it is a gift, but free will is not in the realm of salvation. Do not confuse the extent of free will. Your free will is not absolute, God is sovereign.

3) Would you let me decide to be part of your family? “Heck no, it is not your decision” you would tell me. God chooses his family at “his great pleasure”

4) Many of your posts are “I am right and you are wrong” Just like Job and his friends, they were all wrong and God was right.

I am a reforming right/wrong kind of guy, I know of what I speak.

5) God says as an imperative, “say it out loud”. Why does God say that? It sounds different when you slow down and think about what you say. “Read it slowly and let your lips move” is my version of that. That is offensive to many but I like to have a little fun while speaking truth. Some get it, most don’t.

It is a good thing that God choses some because no one of their own ability would ever choose God.


72 posted on 07/25/2021 1:45:53 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple; imardmd1; SouthernClaire; boatbums; metmom; ducttape45; aMorePerfectUnion
You asserted: "2) Yes, God does give us free will and it is a gift, but free will is not in the realm of salvation."<[> I strongly disagree. It is true that God is sovereign. He can and has chosen men and women for His purposes. HOWEVER, to assert that free will is not in the realm of salvation is to reduce God to a puppet master and remove responsibility from YOU to choose, as in choose you this day. There is a term for folks of your persuasion, who insist that one does not choose to believe God but that God chooses whom He will make to believe. I do not agree with that perspective.

You asserted: "Adam and Eve couldn’t chose the right tree, do you think you are better than them?"

Then you tried a false premise, as in do I think I am better than Adam and Eve. Eve knew what fruit the serpent was offering to her. She believed his lies and ate of the fruit she knew God had said do not eat of that tree. To make the stupid assertion that Adam and Eve could not make the choice of 'the right tree' is to expose a perspective I will not be discussing your false premise with you further.

In your arrogance you do not even realize the projection in your accusing me. And the following is just plain false from your sermonette: "It is a good thing that God choses some because no one of their own ability would ever choose God."

That is a lie. You have denegrated God's invitation into only a puppet master commanding the puppets. When my friend from College got saved and came soon thereafter to my home to share the Gospel of God's Grace with me, I heard in my dead spirit God's invitation to receive His Grace. I CHOSE TO BELIEVE and God did the Justifying as His Faithful action according to His Promise.

Your poorly hidden insults are quite revealing of the spirit directing your arrogance. Your perspective makes God Grace into puppet manipulation. Satan likes folks to be confused by such deceit.

74 posted on 07/25/2021 3:04:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Try to reconcile the following two verses:

Gaithful is He that calleth you, for He will also do it.

Many are called but few are chosen.

If you do not discern for what the scripture is referring as chosen, then you perhaps do not have the spirit of discernment in you presently.

75 posted on 07/25/2021 3:14:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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