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To: MurphsLaw
As noted, it is right there before your 'eyes' that there i nothing that is more powerful than God Who has me in His hands forever more, so there is nothing and no one who can cancel or reverse what God has done for me, and which, in my faithing in Him gives glory ONLY to Christ, as God fully intended. The moment I was born agaon by His Grace toward me as I believed in Whom He sent for my deliverance from the penalty, power, and presence of sin, in that moment I was born out of the fleshly family and into the spiritual family of God through Jesus Christ.

That instant is finished, as Jesus proclaimed from the Cross: he had paid the penalty for/of what I deserve.That moment is a spiritual marker that has no extra moments in order to be timelessly recorded in God's 'book'. And it is an irrevocable moment of God's Promise in action.

Your religion has added mythical moments to that God ordained moment... as an empowerment scheme for a priestly ORG or a brilliant means by which Satan can manipulkate men's SOULS intyo not participating in what God ordains for each of us if we shall ONLY believe. In believing I humble affirm that He can accomplish what He promises, for in the moment I was born again there was and is nothing needed to be added for my Justification. Using double-talk to add 'graces for fealty to an ORG's sacramental requirements exposes origins of your religion's dogms, not requirements from God.

Justification stands without ANY addition. There is nothing in the next phase -the saving from the power of sin- that effects in any way what only God can do and that is justify me before the Holy God of my Salvation. Yes, catholicism is a works based religion. Your mind is duplicitous when you try to re define the additions your religion rtequires to have wht Only God can provide on the spiritual plane of relity. You do not Obtain eternal life, as if there is some work needed to receive the Grace of God in Christ. That myth steals from The Glory due only to Christ Jesus, my Redeemer..

51 posted on 07/22/2021 7:25:43 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
I'll have what your having!!
So I can assume you feel God has proclaimed you saved forever?...and we agree that God does everything to Justify us....
Why arent I saved then? i was baptized. I believe in the creed...and the Resurrected Jesus as my Savior... why am I not saved then too ?

no matter what else I believe in addition to my justification...God has chosen me too... how can I change what God has already proclaimed for me....?? < br>
So then, if I am saved liked you ...need I worry about this bible verse....

+++ Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.+++

what Does this Bible verse mean to you - in the context of being saved?

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52 posted on 07/22/2021 10:50:04 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit")
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To: MHGinTN

AMEN to your post 51. Well done!
I just do not understand why some have no peace in Christ’s finished work for them it is done. Always on edge, not sure, it’s like they do not believe or trust God’s word on salvation. He said Christ’s death for our sins was enough. The price was paid on the wages of our sins. He paid it once and it was for all time.
And people doubt that. That’s calling God a liar. He said it’s enough and they say that cannot possibly be true, then we would be able to sin freely.So they go back to chasing every thought, action, feed,
Actually it might be interesting to observe these people who say they are strengthening themselves physically and mentally to be able go through God’s wrath being poured out on an unbelieving world, hoping to endure until the end, so they can be saved. Finally.
What good was Christ’s death on the Cross if in the it was enduring to the end that saved a person.
What a sham is being played out on lazy people who read a couple of Scriptures they like, never study God’s word the way He told us to study it. And think they are impressing God when they place a bible on their coffee table, never bothering to open it: probably because they are afraid if they come across some scripture that they cannot follow, they will be damned for an eternity. Ignorance is bliss to those who refuse to study God’s word the way He gave us to study it.


53 posted on 07/23/2021 12:14:57 AM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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