Posted on 05/27/2021 7:06:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Although a majority of American adults identify as Christian, only six percent of Americans actually live out a biblical worldview, according to a shocking new study. Partially in response to this finding, the Family Research Council (FRC) is launching the Center for Biblical Worldview, directed by David Closson, in order to encourage Christians to live out their faith authentically. The Center will feature the work of veteran public opinion researcher George Barna and theologian Owen Strachan.
“Dutch theologian Abraham Kuyper once remarked that there is not one square inch over which Jesus Christ does not cry, ‘Mine!’ Kuyper’s point is that the lordship of Jesus extends to all aspects of reality and our lives,” Closson told PJ Media on Wednesday. “Unfortunately, this crucial insight has been largely forgotten today, even by many in our churches where we have a diminished understanding of Christ’s lordship.”
“But Paul is clear about the scope of Christ’s lordship; it includes everything. Colossians 1:16 says, ‘For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.’ This has implications how we think about our resources and material blessings,” Closson explained. “If all things exist and are sustained by Christ, they are His already.”
“I’m afraid we have lost the biblical concept of stewardship, which teaches that everything we have is a gift from God and is to be used for His glory,” the director lamented.
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“Straw man.”
I don’t think you’re using the phrase “straw man” correctly.
“The Bible”
Which revision? I’ve heard Born Again Christians claim KJV is not correct and NIV is the only true source.
Read the comments in this thread. It encapsulate, even more than the presidency of Biden, why we are where we are.
I am sure that as soon as Jesus was crucified, the 11 apostles were already diverging in their interpretation of Jesus words and deeds.”””
If the above is true then everyone has an out for anything. If God couldn’t inspire at a rate of absolutely one hunder percent then He isn’t Almighty.
Correct.
Or they are “Sunday” Christians. Growing up in a rural area, I remember many farmers saying that Jesus has Sunday, but the “real” world works the rest of the six days.
And they lived that way.
My Dad and Grandpa did not, which is one reason they lost the farm. They would not cheat.
RE: Which revision? I’ve heard Born Again Christians claim KJV is not correct and NIV is the only true source.
Doesn’t matter which revision, regardless of translation, the ESSENTIAL TEACHINGS ARE CLEAR TO UNDERSTAND. The 10 commandments, the moral teachings, the essentials of the Christian faith are all there.
RE: The problem is that on even a site like FR, I’d estimate the percentage of actual Bible believing Christians are about 10% on a good day.
Your observations, if accurate, simply validates the results of this study.
In addition to you comments.
So many reading this assume it goes to the issue of judging salvation. It does not in any way. That is God’s realm.
A very good question is: “DO I REALLY BELIEVE WHAT I SAY I BELIEVE?” The survey shows great disconnect.
“Surprised that I am so close, because I am
1) a Catholic and guessing this writer doesn’t think Catholics are Christians”
Are Catholics Christians? Oh my, what a can of worms that would be. But like every other Christian “religion”, certainly some are and others are not. Those who place their trust for redemption and salvation in what Jesus did for them and in their place on the Cross will certainly stand out from those who place their faith in other things, like believing that BEING a member of the Catholic Church saves them, or some of the other ritualistic or antibiblical practices of Catholicism.
“2) a natural argumentative skeptic in constant struggle to believe”
Perhaps that all depends on whether you “struggle to believe” with your mind or with your God given faith and heart. Remember, “the devil also believes, and trembles”.
“3) think that God permits a good deal of chance events that we rise to and cope with by His grace.”
Chance events, maybe, and maybe not. There is no judgement happening in this age of Grace as happened under the Law. So when bad things happen, they are not from the hand of God. What God can do is turn bad things that happen into blessings.
A strawman is an argument that distorts an opposing stance in order to make it easier to attack. When people discuss the Bible as God’s Word, people often then reply, “But Christians don’t agree about what it says and besides, they will all misquote it.”
Which is irrelevant to the point. People often have no understanding of a law, but the law remains the law.
“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”
That is an English translation of Koine Greek. It was penned before the New Testament existed. It was a letter to timothy and I agree with what it says. And at the time that was written the old testament that was commonly used by the writers of the time was the Septuagint, which contains many books we don’t have in our modern Old Testament.
They also quoted 1 Enoch a LOT: http://alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Book%20of%20Enoch%20NT%20Verses.htm
Is 1 Enoch scripture? What does the word “scripture” actually mean? And what does the phrase “God Breathed” actually mean?
I interpret the above scripture to be telling timothy, “God inspired the writers of the ancient books. Read them. Understand what they are saying. It will help teach you truth, enable you to clearly expose lies, correct your misconceptions, and it will teach you what is righteous, enabling you, as a child of God to be fully prepared to do, in every situation, what is the best course of action at that time.”
It’s not talking about what we, today, call our English language bibles specifically, though I think they fall into the whole concept.
However, I don’t worry about what Paul said about hair length in the same way a lot of people do. And I don’t think I should: https://brendansaltvick.wordpress.com/2017/07/28/why-1-corinthians-11-is-talking-about-covering-your-genitals-not-your-head/
I mean “aligned with what the Bible says”.
“I identify as Christian, but recognize that I am not a very good one. I also recognize that too many who claim to be good Christians are not.”
Define “good christian”. Remember, our works are as filthy rags before a Just and Righteous God. Huge difference between good works that take place as a result of a believer led by the Spirit as apposed to something done out of our own sense of morality, guilt, or self righteousness maybe.
It pains me to realize all these “Christians” and “Conservatives” who are elected officials and work in the government are Fakes when the rubber meets the road.
How many stood up to the COVID-19 tyranny?
I’ll just have to walk away and do the right thing here.
When it comes to “Hypochristians” the only one I have any say about is myself.
A very good question is: “DO I REALLY BELIEVE WHAT I SAY I BELIEVE?” The survey shows great disconnect.
When someone says they are a Christian, it doesn’t mean they believe the teachings of Christ. It just means they claim to be a Christian. They may be ignorant of the actual teachings of Christ. I actually see a lot of that.
e.g. I don’t believe Tithing is a Christian concept, but I know a LOT of Christians that believe it is.
“I also recognize that too many who claim to be good Christians are not.”
Christians, by nature have a dual citizenship (though one of those is permanent and one temporary). We are still troubled by the flesh (there’s the Christian who is not “good”), yet we are [being] made perfect in Christ.
If I claim to be good as a Christian, it is because God has deemed me so because I am in Christ - and, therefore, righteous and holy. It’s my failing to live up to my calling down here before men that makes me look bad (and, boy, can I look bad). God, however, sees no bad in me...He sees His Son (and therein is my peace...as well as the challenge to live more holy before men).
Exactly- there are other polls that show Christinity is z,a, and thriving despite all the negative articles about its demise.
That could be true, UNTIL the Holy Spirit came upon them.
The law is printed and created by man and interpreted by man. Different beast.
What God wants is interpreted by man and men simply do not agree what the word of God is or what he requires. So, to say people do not agree is accurate. To claim there is a solid basis of His word does not negate the conclusion that men do not agree with what those words are and what the definition of a Christian is. Heck, I *think* even the Jews even have a completely different interpretation of what God’s word means.
“there are other polls that show Christinity is z,a, and thriving despite all the negative articles about its demise.”
Exactly. It is thriving, and every man has the right to his own interpretation as he sees the word of God and what it means to him. I think God is good with that.
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