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To: jonrick46
So, if masks don't work, tell me how you will protect others from catching COVID-19 from you when you become contagious?

I was a leader of a Hazmat team for many years. The selection of personal protective equipment for the situations that we faced was our number one priority. My wife is a retired nurse and I volunteered in facilities that she worked at. One of the notable ones was the Life Care Center in Kirkland Washington which if you look it up was the first care facility in the country to have an outbreak of Covid that resulted in multiple deaths. We had not been there for six months before tragedy struck but we understand very well why the facility was vulnerable.

The masks that people are wearing typically have little to no protective even for protection against a dusty environment. They do however increase your chances of becoming sick by forcing you by lowering your oxygen uptake and working as a reservoir and breeding ground for bacterial and viral particulate.

We have two friends who became sriously ill from pneumonia last year... one of them died and one has permanent lung damage. Both were both deathly afraid of catching Covid last year and wore masks even when inside their own homes alone and when outside alone. Their doctors felt that the masks contributed to their demise.

How do you protect others from getting ill if you get sick? By isolating yourself from others as much as possible, practicing good hygiene and trying to take good care of yourself, as well as having as little contact as possible with people who are assisting you and your caregivers if you need them. How is it that people have completely lost their common sense this year?

The masks give only a false sense of security. People who are symptomatic and contagious expose others by not limiting their contact with others and contaminating surfaces that other people are using.

when COVID-19 is in its incubation phase, it shows no symptoms when it can infect others. This is a fact that is known worldwide.

No, the only fact is that you have little understanding of how contagious illnesses develop and are spread. People who are in the “incubation phase” of any illness are far less contagious than people who are symptomatic because they are shedding far less viral particulate. You get ill when you are exposed to a high enough level of viral particulate that your immune system cannot fight it off. This is a virus that is contagious enough that people who are socially active and have lived in the early hotspots have been exposed multiple times to low levels of the virus for many months now. Our immune system is already capable of fighting off this virus even before being immunized. Part of the reason why we are more capable of fighting off the virus now than last year is because we were around people who were shedding low levels of the virus.

Unfortunately we have been exposed now for a year to unbelievable amounts of politically motivated propaganda that has turned reasonable persons such as yourself into paranoid, misinformed fountains of nonsense.

Is it possible for a person who has no symptoms to spread a virus? Obviously! Do they pose a great risk to others? NO!!! Can people who are symptomatic and are running around town with a dust mask, surgical mask, or bandanna on their faces and taking no other precautions pose a risk to others? Yes! If you are sick don't give it to others. Don't share your pop or desert with others; don't shake their hands; don't cough on them; keep your distance; and don't share an enclosed space with them. These are things that were taught to those of us who lost our youth decades ago when we were children.

22 posted on 04/01/2021 7:58:22 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15
As a fellow Washingtonian, I was aware of the fiasco happening in the Kirkland Life Care Center. I believe the failure to isolate the residents caused the spread throughout Washington. I blame the Inslee leadership for that. He obviously knew the staff at that center were ignorant of the situation and, for some dark reason, let it spread. I compare him to Andrew Cuomo.

I agree that mask do a poor job at filtering particulates like fiberglass insulation. I had to wear an industrial grade respirator in my long hours in attics installing alarm wiring, many years ago. However, masks do a good job filtering droplets. They mostly protect others from the virus laden droplets you shed. That is important because you control the viral load if you are infected and not aware of it.

I disagree with you on the level of danger one has when they have been infected as the virus goes through the incubation phase. This is a time when a false sense of safety can cause one to infect others with bad practices: joining in a card game, not using the hand sanitizer when entering a public place, pulling the mask down below your nose when in public, pulling the mask down to cough in public, going to see your 65 year-old mom and kissing her, the list goes on. The virus is contagious and loose masks sink ships.

The type of mask you wear can make big difference. A study by Duke University used a laser to evaluate the effectiveness of various forms of masks. The team found a fitted N-95 mask performed best, transmitting less than 1% of respiratory droplets into the air. A standard surgical mask was nearly as effective. This graph shows the droplet transmission from the 14 types of face coverings tested in this experiment. The green dot represents the droplet count for the control trial (a person not wearing a mask). The red dot shows bandana use, emitting about 50% of droplets, which is not very effective compared to the other masks tested.

1. Fitted N95, no valve (14 in photo)
2. 3-layer surgical mask (1)
3. Cotton-polypropylene-cotton mask (5)
4. 2-layer polypropylene apron mask (4)
5. 2-layer cotton, pleated style mask (13)
6. 2-layer cotton, pleated style mask (7)
7. Valved N95 mask (2)
8. 2-layer cotton, Olson style mask (8)
9. 1-layer Maxima AT mask (6)
10. 1-layer cotton, pleated style mask (10)
11. 2-layer cotton, pleated style mask (9)
12. Knitted mask (3)
13. Double-layer bandanna (12)
14. Gaiter type neck fleece ( 1)


23 posted on 04/01/2021 10:56:15 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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