Faith and works go together as forgiveness and healing in Mark 2 (thus used interchangeably as "Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?" Mark 2:9) but as cause and effect, and one must not make the effect to be the cause. It is penitent heart-purifying regenerating faith, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) which effects obedience by the Spirit (Romans 8"14) that is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) whereby the redeemed soul is "accepted in the Beloved" (Ephesians 1:6) on His account. And the same will go to be with the Lord at death or at His return (Luke 23:43 [cf. 2 Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff; 1Thess. 4:17 ) if they have finally persevered in faith. (Heb. 3:9-14; 10:25-39; Gal. 5:1-4) Glory and thanks be to God.
Word games. Here is how you can see the trap.
If you don’t do the works, you go to H3ll.
(You twisted Mark 2 BTW.)
“Obedience by the Spirit” you say? Well I am gonna sit here for a while and see if the Spirit” decides to take out the trash.
I don’t expect you to see it.
FReegards to you daniel1212.
I often notice your posts and comments and alwats appreciate your fine contribution here! FR is a better place with you in it!