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To: LouieFisk

RE: You’re building yourself a circular reasoning catch-22 there.

Not if you say that a Christian is someone who accepts Jesus as LORD and SAVIOR.

The problem with so many “Christians” (note the quotes), is they want Him to save them from their sins but will not submit to His Lordship.

I have seen many self-professed Christians who continue to fornicate and support abortion ( when a woman conceives ) without any regrets. But yeah,they go to church and worship.

Simply asking Him to save you without repenting and having a change of heart is NOT the gospel.

And yes, that’s in the Bible and if you understand it, it is NOT circular because the gospel *IS* in the Bible.


15 posted on 10/26/2020 7:31:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Many "Christians" go to great lengths to define anyone who disagrees with them on any doctrine, as "not Christian".

It is a way of pride and virtue signaling.

There are far more than 2% Christians in the USA.

16 posted on 10/26/2020 7:34:46 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So you disagree with Jesus’s criteria - John 13:35?

Also, you should note that He never claimed he would be widely accepted, think “narrow gate”. So, to me it would be news if he were, that He isn’t is the norm. Thus my skeptical view of the statement of over 60% of kids claiming to be Christians.


23 posted on 10/26/2020 7:42:08 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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