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To: newberger; JesusIsLord
There is a significant difference between an intercessor and a mediator. Jesus is the ONLY mediator between us and the Father but we have MANY intercessors. You do ask your brothers and sisters to intercede (pray) for you, right?

The ones that can hear us...The live ones...

Wouldn't Catholics be bummed after having died they found out none of those they prayed to for intercession were even there???

Now here's a real Catholic mystery...Their popes and cardinals and the rest of them claim heaven and hell aren't really places...They are a state of mind...A state of their mind...Kinda like the Twilight Zone...Their individual heaven may not be like any one else's heaven...How do they get someone to intercede for them who isn't anywhere other than their own state of mind???

I have faith in Jesus Christ but it takes far, far more faith to believe in the Catholic religion...

75 posted on 10/26/2020 2:04:33 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Now here's a real Catholic mystery...Their popes and cardinals and the rest of them claim heaven and hell aren't really places...They are a state of mind...A state of their mind...Kinda like the Twilight Zone...Their individual heaven may not be like any one else's heaven...How do they get someone to intercede for them who isn't anywhere other than their own state of mind???

I have faith in Jesus Christ but it takes far, far more faith to believe in the Catholic religion..

But, this thread is NOT about the Roman Catholic Church. To Protestants and others Orthodoxy may LOOK like Catholicism but there are significant differences. We don't have a pope or cardinals. We do not teach that Heaven and Hell are states of mind.

78 posted on 10/26/2020 3:28:51 PM PDT by newberger (Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.)
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To: Iscool
The ones that can hear us...The live ones...

Jesus, in debating with the Sadducees (who denied the resurrection), made the point that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was the God of the living, not the dead.

Those who repose in faith are alive to God. Of course, the saints are not omniscient. The only way they can hear our requests for intercession is if God makes it known to them.

Besides, if we are wrong in thinking they can intercede, God hears those prayers!

79 posted on 10/26/2020 3:35:57 PM PDT by newberger (Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.)
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To: Iscool
Wouldn't Catholics be bummed after having died they found out none of those they prayed to for intercession were even there???

Good point bro. How many “saints,” that get prayed to, are actually in Hell, not Heaven?

86 posted on 10/26/2020 6:16:47 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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