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To: rollo tomasi

“So Jesus was not attached to Mary via umbilical cord.”
What the heck does that have to do with DNA donation? I want you to put in quotation marks in your response to me how I even came close to saying that....

Let me explain surrogacy to you, the surrogate mother carries the child without donating any DNA to the child. It happens all the time and the fetus is able to be implanted by man, so with that being said I just don’t think the LORD GOD would have any problems with creating a surrogate mother.

“Also, you know for a fact that one of Mary’s ovum was not used.”

Can you read Scripture... oh wait you couldn’t understand what I put in simple English, never mind.

“These “secret things” along with the status of Mary’s virginity after the birth of Jesus are non-sequiturs.”

Jesus had brothers and sisters a common read of the Scriptures is clear, but you rc’s never let the truth of Scriptures steer you to God.

Mark 6:3-4, paying attention especially to v.4 “His own relatives and household” this eliminates the spiritual brothers and sisters.

John 2:12
After this He went down to Capernaum, He and His mother and His brothers and His disciples; and they stayed there a few days.

Becasue the Scripture should have read His mother and His brothers and His brother, yeah right.

John 7:39
3 Therefore His brothers said to Him, “Leave here and go into Judea, so that Your disciples also may see Your works which You are doing.

Again read that Scripture it clearly speaks of brothers of the flesh.

Mark 6
3“Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?” And they took offense at Him. 4Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and among his own relatives and in his own household.”

***Even Jesus states that this was His relatives.

It’s very clear that Jesus of Nazareth had brothers and sisters of the flesh.


142 posted on 08/26/2020 9:06:05 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: mrobisr
Jesus is fully human so that He can be perfect in judgment, perfect in love, perfect in righteousness, etc... and of course experiences what it is to be human.

On the flip side, Jesus exists outside of space and time meaning past, present, future, untold dimensions, etc... are under His “feet” at all times. The Trinity of three “persons” has layers of internal and external qualities which leads to a complete understanding, self-awareness, and perfect knowledge through those 3 “Persons” in one. All three have different qualities/roles.

Jesus has always existed but also has access during eternity past, present, and future of the current time-line we are “confined” in now. To be fully human you must be grafted with another person. That other person was Mary and her genetic line since all of eternity. And you know what, that genetic line from Mary does not require perfection unless you think humans are perfect. In fact Mary was bestowed Grace of the highest order before our Lord was grafted into her womb and nurtured in that womb by Mary, sharing all kinds of DNA perhaps down through her genetic line.

178 posted on 08/27/2020 6:59:05 AM PDT by rollo tomasi
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