Posted on 08/26/2020 1:41:57 PM PDT by MurphsLaw
Ummm...no, it's not. The angel Gabriel appeared to Mary to announce she would be the Christ bearer:
Maybe you can parse some words together from Gabriel and Elisabeth's greetings to Mary (it wasn't a "prayer") for the first half of the Catholic prayer to Mary (the Hail Mary), but the second part is all fabricated and not "IN THE BIBLE". Besides, we direct our prayers to God alone.
For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. (Isaiah 48:11)
I read the article. It's not the first time the subject's come up on this site, either. Obviously, the child shares the parent's DNA genetic properties though he/she is a completely unique individual. What kind of "cells" are transferred to the mother and from the mother to the child isn't fully known but they are microscopic.
For example, if the mother's blood RH (Rhesus) factor is negative and the baby's father's is positive, there will be a transference of some blood cells at birth from the RH positive baby to the mother which will cause a problem in subsequent pregnancies. The mother's immune system will play havoc with the developing child if it is RH positive.
During pregnancy, problems can occur if you're Rh negative and the baby you're carrying is Rh positive. Usually, your blood doesn't mix with your baby's blood during pregnancy. However, a small amount of your baby's blood could come in contact with your blood during delivery or if you experience bleeding or abdominal trauma during pregnancy. If you're Rh negative and your baby is Rh positive, your body might produce proteins called Rh antibodies after exposure to the baby's red blood cells.
The antibodies produced aren't a problem during the first pregnancy. The concern is with your next pregnancy. If your next baby is Rh positive, these Rh antibodies can cross the placenta and damage the baby's red blood cells. This could lead to life-threatening anemia, a condition in which red blood cells are destroyed faster than the baby's body can replace them. Red blood cells are needed to carry oxygen throughout the body.
If you're Rh negative, you might need to have another blood test — an antibody screen — during your first trimester, during week 28 of pregnancy and at delivery. The antibody screen is used to detect antibodies to Rh positive blood. If you haven't started to produce Rh antibodies, you'll likely need an injection of a blood product called Rh immune globulin. The immune globulin prevents your body from producing Rh antibodies during your pregnancy.
If your baby is born Rh negative, no additional treatment is needed. If your baby is born Rh positive, you'll need another injection shortly after delivery.
If you're Rh negative and your baby might be or is Rh positive, your health care provider might recommend an Rh immune globulin injection after situations in which your blood could come into contact with the baby's blood, including:
As to additional non-genetic cell transfers and whether or not they remain in the mother, the child and siblings is a new field.
What you should be thinking about is the human flesh and blood, earthly body is transformed at glorification and is different. Our earth bodies and eternally glorified, like unto Christ's glorified bodies are NOT the same. How specifically they are different is a mystery. A resurrected body will come into being even if the dead human body is nothing but dust, scattered to the four winds, obliterated or still intact in a coffin. We will be "changed", this corruptible will be incorruptible.
> “but then WHO is that OLD fella in my mirror?”
In case your quip is a real query…. Clearly the quality of the new cells decline over the years – the result of a number of factors such as a reduction in the supply of various material for making new cells, and less efficiency in the overall process.
But the ultimate cause is because we are made so that we grow old, hence all the aging mechanisms, but you know what? We are also supposed to be on our feet until the day we die, so illness is not a given as we grow old.
Do you not see the connect between "Mother of God" with "mother of my Lord"?
Do you Catholics believe Mary existed BEFORE God? Or, is as ancient as God? Do you Catholics believe Jesus did not exist until a body was provided for Him?
Do you not see that my response addressed the false claim of:
We pray the "Hail Mary"- as each Verse of that prayer IS IN THE BIBLE - for the Blessed Virgin to Pray FOR us sinners, until we die....
The Blessed Mother is praying to God for us sinners.
And you have a problem with that?
Incredible.
More Catholic wish-egesis.
You can’t mindread, remember?
Never claimed I could.
But you haven’t responded to, “mother of my Lord” being in the Bible.
I am truly curious as to how you believe the passage you posted is in any way related to what boatbums is pointing out for you. Care to explain for a change?
Yes, the TradCaths and radtrad RCs with their sects are quite numerous here and consider themselves to be the faithful RCs, but I do not see you actually challenging them much, meanwhile I am not telling you not to post anti-evangelical provocative articles (and usually it is RCs promoting their church, not evangelicals challenging them), but that if you do then do not complain about them being refuted and your arguments being exposed as sophistry, and shown to actually be an argument against being a Catholic.
In essence you are not posting anything new with your promotions of Rome, for as a newbie here and missed out on the years of wars between those who used FR as RC propaganda organ and those who posted articles attacking her, and thus much of what I respond with is from past responses since the basic specious RC arguments are nothing new, while it remains that distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).
Ecumenically speaking, I attempted to show you that Caths share common ground with the Reformation rebels in that we share common ground in the generation of Mary. And if Mary was part of God’s plan for bringing Salvation into this world.... we just feel then that’s something to love and latch onto, without diminishing Christ
Please. You only spoke of the views of Reformers views on Mary in post 183 in your absurd response to my mention of the Assumption being made dogma over 1700 years after the even allegedly happened. And my reproof was not in any denial that Mary was indeed part of God’s plan for bringing Salvation into this world, and men and women before and after her were also, but it is the hyper-exaltation of the Mary of Catholicism that you are being part of, and which surely does diminish Christ. Not with Mary being claimed by Catholic popes and saints etc as,
...in the supernatural and spiritual generation there is a father who is God and a mother who is Mary; she is Mother of her Creator...through Whom the Holy Trinity is sanctified; The power thus put into her (Mary’s) hands is all but unlimited; surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven; At the command of Mary all obey, even God. She is omnipotent; Virgin most powerful; the greatness of the power which she wields over one who is God cannot be conceived; all in heaven and on earth, even God himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgin...she seems to have the same power as God. Her prayers and requests are so powerful with him that he accepts them as commands in the sense that he never resists his dear mother’s prayer because it is always humble and conformed to his will; when she acts, it is also He who acts; and that if her intervention be not accepted, neither is His.... Her position as "the first of all creatures, the most acceptable child of God, the nearest and dearest to him".. through her alone does He dispense His favours and His gifts; there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose;" above the Cherubim and higher than the Seraphim, right near God Himself!; Mary has authority over the angels and the blessed in heaven...God gave her the power and the mission of assigning to saints the thrones made vacant by the apostate angels who fell away through pride....all the angels in heaven unceasingly call out to her...They greet her countless times each day with the angelic greeting, "Hail, Mary", while prostrating themselves before her, begging her as a favour to honour them with one of her requests...The whole world is filled with her glory...Whatever desires the patriarchs may have cherished, whatever entreaties the prophets and saints of the Old Law may have had for 4,000 years to obtain that treasure, it was Mary alone who merited it; sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus; No one achieves salvation except through you...No one receives grace except through you; Thou are all-powerful in saving sinners; Beware, chosen soul, of thinking that it is more perfect to direct your work and intention straight to Jesus or straight to God; Lady in heaven, we have but one advocate, and that is thyself, and thou alone art truly loving and solicitous for our salvation; through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is his will, that we obtain everything through Mary; in Heaven we have but one advocate, and that is Thyself; and that Thou alone art truly loving and solicitous for our welfare; .you love us with a love that no other love can surpass. How often you appease the wrath of our Divine Judge, when He is on the point of punishing us! All the treasures of the mercy of God are in your hands; she had to suffer, as He did, all the consequences of sin. It was not only during the Passion that Jesus and Mary suffered for our sins; We were condemned through the fault of one woman; we are saved through the merits of another woman; to her, Jesus owes His Precious Blood...
Sources and more.
This gets me in WAY too much troble!
Time was invented by Mother Nature to make sure that everything doesn’t happen at once.
They sure can disappear quickly!
My wife came from a large family. She was 12 when left behind at a rest area. Sleeping, everyone but her had bailed to use the bathroom. She awoke, found everyone gone, also went to the bathroom; however, somehow missing everyone else, who were piling back into the station wagon. They were miles down the road before somebody noticed she was gone!
Yup...
(love and latch onto)N
If Jesus were an only child; wouldn't this phrase kinda condemn Mary and Joseph?
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