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To: MurphsLaw; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; MamaB; ...
Peter Kreeft, a scholarly treasure who converted to the Catholic Church some years back said of his conversion that it-Made him a Better Protestant...

And based upon his testimony you need to start with your own tent, since as he states in Justification by Faith,

Over the past twenty-five years I have asked hundreds of Catholic college students the question: If you should die tonight and God asks you why he should let you into heaven, what would you answer? The vast majority of them simply do not know the right answer to this, the most important of all questions, the very essence of Christianity. They usually do not even mention Jesus! - https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/religion-and-philosophy/apologetics/justification-by-faith.html

Roman Catholic professor Peter Kreeft also believes that, When Luther taught that we are saved by faith alone, he meant by salvation only the initial step, justification, being put right with God. But when Trent said we are saved by good works as well as faith, they meant by salvation the whole process by which God brings us to our eternal destiny and that process includes repentance, faith, hope, and charity, the works of love. — ibid

And since Luther also clearly affirmed that it was only effectual faith that justifies, faith and works being inseparable, that faith is a living and an essential thing, which makes a new creature of man, changes his spirit... Faith cannot help doing good works constantly... if faith be true, it will break forth and bear fruit... where there is no faith there also can be no good works; and conversely, that there is no faith.. where there are no good works. Therefore faith and good works should be so closely joined together that the essence of the entire Christian life consists in both. if obedience and God's commandments do not dominate you, then the work is not right, but damnable, surely the devil's own doings, although it were even so great a work as to raise the dead... if you continue in pride and lewdness, in greed and anger, and yet talk much of faith, St. Paul will come and say, 1 Cor. 4:20, look here my dear Sir, "the kingdom of God is not in word but in power." It requires life and action, and is not brought about by mere talk. Works are necessary for salvation, but they do not cause salvation... faith casts itself on God, and breaks forth and becomes certain through its works... faith must be exercised, worked and polished; be purified by fire... it is impossible for him who believes in Christ, as a just Savior, not to love and to do good. If, however, he does not do good nor love, it is sure that faith is not present... where the works are absent, there is also no Christ... References and more by God's grace. , then the Reformation and Counter-Reformation was much that of misunderstanding?

Rather, despite the modern Cath emphasis upon faith, what the RC gospel essentially teaches is that by the grace of God one actually becomes good enough to enter Heaven/glory/God's presence. Thus as Kreeft "also stated, "...we will go to Purgatory first, and then to Heaven after we are purged of all selfishness and bad habits and character faults." - Peter Kreeft, Because God Is Real: Sixteen Questions, One Answer, p. 224

The “Catholics clean house” argument also undermines our own theology. Is the Eucharist the “source and summit of the Christian life,” as Lumen Gentium preaches, or not? If it is, how could we in good conscience not direct other Christians to its salvific power? Jesus Himself declared: “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.” (John 6:53)

However, to be a faithful Catholic means to assent to the living magisterium's understanding of John 6:53, and rather than meaning that those who do not believe in the Cath Eucharist have no life in them, Lumen Gentium and other modern teaching generally affirms of properly baptized Protestants - all of which deny the Catholic Real Presence and according to Rome lack the necessary priest to confect the Eucharist - "that those who are baptized in these communities are, by Baptism, incorporated in Christ, and are "in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church," being "joined with us in the Holy Spirit" who "is operative among them," such as the "many who take Sacred Scripture as a norm of belief and a pattern of life" and lovingly believe in the Trinity. Sources.

Was our Lord misrepresenting the Eucharist?

Rather, it is the Cath contrivance Eucharist that misrepresents the Lord's supper, and only the metaphorical understanding easily conforms to Scripture overall.

Consider how much more fruitful our fight against the devastation of the sexual revolution would be if we persuaded Protestants that they need to reject things like contraception

Again, see to thine own house;


45 posted on 08/09/2020 11:18:14 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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I would note that Protestants don’t do great in this type of polling, and there are entire mainline denominations that are dead. Even so-called evangelicals come up with scary results in opinion polling. (Barna group does a lot of it.)

There are plenty of tares among the wheat.


68 posted on 08/09/2020 2:28:13 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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