Should we Evangelize Protestants ?

The Catholic Thing ^ | August 9th, 2020 | Casey Chalk

[Elsie]

To what end? What is your intent in the evangelization?

Let me guess, "To make them a Francis hater; too!"?

[Elsie]

To what end?

I think Jesus mentioned...

Matthew 23:15

 

   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! 

You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, 

you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 

[ADSUM]

You certainly realize that the Blessed Mother passes on the requests to her son, Jesus, with her prayers. Jesus does the heavy lifting.

You could pray the Rosary daily for the conversion of sinners which could save many of your friends from Hell.

And if you really wanted to worship God the Father you could join Jesus at Mass to be part of his sacrifice on the cross that is offered to God the Father. Or if you really wanted to get close to Jesus and talk to Him spend an hour in front of the Blessed Sacrament. It could change your life.

[Elsie]

What if she said no?

It would have made NO difference!

She was TOLD what WAS going to happen; period!

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Luke 1:26-38  Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

²⁶ And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth,

²⁷ To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

²⁸ And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

²⁹ Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be.

³⁰ And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

³¹ Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.

³² He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever.

³³ And of his kingdom there shall be no end.

³⁴ And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?

³⁵ And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shalt come upon thee, and the power of the most High shalt overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shalt be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

³⁶ And behold thy cousin Elizabeth, she also hath conceived a son in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her that is called barren:

³⁷ Because no word shalt be impossible with God.

³⁸ And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her. 

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(shall / shalt is NOT 'asking' Mary if she'll do something for GOD)

(This ain't CONSENTING)

[Elsie]

Nor is it apostolic as there is nothing in Catholicism that even begins to resemble the early church as recorded int he book of Acts and addressed in Paul’s epistles.

But SURELY those seven Asian churches are identical to RCC today; right??

[Elsie]

Say, isn't she supposed to be the faithful SPOUSE of the Holy Spirit?

She sure was NOT to JOSEPH!!

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 The chaste maiden; forever Virgin??

 

 

The Roman Catholic Church  has turned the beautiful, blessed lady of Scripture into an asexual, frigid Jewish wife; who withheld her favors from Joseph for no rational reason.

 

1 Corinthians 7:1-40 ESV 

... each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband.

For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does.

Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.

 

 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer;

but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

 

[ADSUM]

Many with free will reject God’s Truth and follow man’s false truth inspired by the devil.

It looks like the devil is winning now, and few will find the narrow gate. While Jesus would like everyone to join Him in Heaven, He will allow the few that truly believe and do his will to join Him. Jesus has Divine Mercy for our sins if we ask and repent. So now is the time to repent and do penance for our sins.

[Elsie]

The whole Mary thing also perverts the image of God as He is presented in Scripture and represented to us by Christ.

Ya THINK!?!?

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“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,  a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever ...

believes that the Roman Catholic Church is the ONE True church,

and...
believes the wine and wafer served up by the priest is TRULY Christ's real flesh and blood (and eats it),

and...
believes he MUST confess his sins to the Only person able to forgive his sins (the priest),

and...
believes Mary is in Heaven,

and...
believes Mary will get Jesus to do whatever SHE tells Him, 

and...
believes Mary is a NECESSARY part of salvation,
and...
believes Mary is everyone's mother,

and...
believes Mary has, at many times and various places, brought yet another  message from Heaven that evidently was forgotten to be included in the bible when Rome assembled it,
and...
believes Mary makes promises to her adorers and venerators and hyperdulia expressors that she will bestow upon them HER favors if they do HER will,

and...
believes many famous dead Catholics have similar powers that Rome has attributed to Mary,

and...

believes holy water will repel vampires,          (well; maybe not THIS one...)

 

... will not be put to shame.” (I Peter 2:4-6) -- as Rome teaches it.

 

 

 

[ADSUM]

Your false comment: “Catholicism forfeited the right to call itself a *church* over a thousand years ago.”

That is just your opinion. All sin is evil and Our Lord suffers for all sins. At least sinners in the Catholic Church have the opportunity to change their ways and repent, go to the Sacrament of Confession and be reconciled with God.

The Catholic Church has her origin in the Holy Trinity, and that is the source of her holiness. The Church is holy in her Founder, in her saints, an in her means of salvation.

I hope that you have the opportunity to reconcile with God.

[metmom]

That is just your opinion.

Wrong.

when the Catholic religion starts cleaning house and living according to God's word, THEN it might have some cause to call itself a church.

QUALIFICATIONS FOR DEACION AND ELDER

1 Timothy 3:1-13 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.

Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for dishonest gain. They must hold the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. And let them also be tested first; then let them serve as deacons if they prove themselves blameless. Their wives likewise must be dignified, not slanderers, but sober-minded, faithful in all things. Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well. For those who serve well as deacons gain a good standing for themselves and also great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:5-16 This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. For an overseer, as God's steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.

1 Corinthians 5:1-13 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.

For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.

Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

That precludes taking communion with someone like that.

2 John 1:4-11 I rejoiced greatly to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as we were commanded by the Father. And now I ask you, dear lady—not as though I were writing you a new commandment, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it. For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch yourselves, so that you may not lose what we have worked for, but may win a full reward. Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

Galatians 5:19-24 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

All sin is evil and Our Lord suffers for all sins.

Suffered. Past tense.

He's not suffering any more.

At least sinners in the Catholic Church have the opportunity to change their ways and repent, go to the Sacrament of Confession and be reconciled with God.

Nonsense. Any sinner can repent any time they feel like it and they don't need to tell a corrupt Catholic clergyman about it and have him punish himself for it.

Luke 18:9-14 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’

But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

We are reconciled to God through Christ, not Catholicism or religious practices.

The homosexual, child molesting, cocaine using (at the Vatican no less) clergy is holy in NOTHING.

I had the opportunity to reconcile with God and did it all without any help from Catholicism, which did NOTHING for me.

I repented and turned to God when I was 22 and was born from above and now am in right relationship with God through Christ, who is my righteousness.

[RevelationDavid]

Yes Elsie, the Word answers the question of ‘why?” Beautiful response. Thank you, dear believer.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“ Jesus, the Son of God, was sent by the Father to restore the harmony between himself and humanity that had been disrupted by sin.

No adsum.

Christ came to DIE for sin.

Surely you must know that.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“ You certainly realize that the Blessed Mother passes on the requests to her son, Jesus, with her prayers. Jesus does the heavy lifting.

Never in Scripture! Not even once

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“ Or if you really wanted to get close to Jesus and talk to Him spend an hour in front of the Blessed Sacrament.

1. Christ isn’t a wafer
2. Christ indwells the true believer at all times.

You missed a lot bro - and add even more that isn’t there.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“ The Catholic Church has her origin in the Holy Trinity, and that is the source of her holiness.

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And yet your priesthood is gay.

And yet your priests a use children around the world.

And yet your leaders cover it up and enable more abuse.

And yet your pope worships Mother Earth.

It ain’t holy now!

[Mark17]

Heck; there's also gonna be some Sadducees and Pharisees there; too!

Paul would be one. Possibly Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea. Maybe others. 😁

[Mark17]

The Roman Catholic Church has turned the beautiful, blessed lady of Scripture into an asexual, frigid Jewish wife; who withheld her favors from Joseph for no rational reason.

Hmmm. That might come as a surprise to Mary and Joseph’s other children. I wonder if the stork brought them? 😁🤣🙃 Some may try to say those kids were the cousins of Jesus. Hogwash. Some may say they were Joseph’s kids from a previous marriage. Hogwash. Mary and Joseph did the evil deed. They had sexual relations, and probably enjoyed it. Oh the horror of horrors. They actually acted like a normal married couple. What a novel concept. I know, Catholic heads are exploding. Whatever, I say. 😁🤪🙃 Since I am an ex catholic, I am allowed to think for myself. I am comfortable with that. 😁 I keep saying that, but I really AM comfortable with that, and, putting it rather bluntly, I am not too concerned if some don’t agree with that. 😁🤣🙃

[Mark17]

I hope that you have the opportunity to reconcile with God.

Likewise bro. I hope that you have the opportunity to reconcile with God.

[Luircin]

Good ole Catholic arrogance. They think that just because they say something it has to be true.

ADSUM still provides no evidence whatsoever about why we should believe anything he says; even when he uses Scripture, he provides no reason at all as to why we should believe his personal interpretation.

[Luircin]

You know what the best part is? Since the clergy is so corrupt and wicked, there are like NO Catholics actually getting the Sacraments. That means according to their own rules, huge swaths of Catholics are condemned to Hell because they never actually got the Sacraments that they believe saves them.