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Posted on 08/09/2020 7:46:24 AM PDT by MurphsLaw
That’s right.
Actually they think she is higher than Christ because they say Christ has to obey her
LOL, a retroactive sin nature. Now that, is funny. Its a good question, though. Just my opinion, but I think that every young Jewish girl dreamed of being the mother of the savior. They may not have completely understood it. I dont think Mary understood it. She had to ask how, since she didnt know a man, sexually.
This so called choice idea is bogus. The angel Gabriel, didnt ask Mary for her permission. He TOLD her what was going to happen. There was no choice involved.
I think you are on to something. Its pointless to argue with Catholics about Mary. I dont agree with them, on Mary, but, whatever. 😁
I can't help but believe that all of that is in there for our benefit so that we never think God doesn't care about us or that we must appeal to some mortal human being to be our go-between. That's the kind of faith I know Mary had and she, though a simple Israelite woman, knew she could trust in what God had promised. I may not know why God allows certain things in my life, but I know He loves me and wants what is best for me and that's why I have grown to trust Him more and more.
I don't think some of our Catholic friends really believe that and it's why they lift up Mary and the Saints as their intercessors. They're closer to God, they reason, so maybe He will hear them. Or He's busy with the big stuff, don't "bother" Jesus. How much they are missing!
God bless you, MomMD. Have a great weekend!
You as well! We are all blessed beyond our wildest imagining. I cant wait for the day we find out just how blessed
I think we should hold onto the celebrations of Christmas and Easter because for now at least the rest of the world still recognizes that they are about Jesus Christ. Perfect opportunities for witnessing to the lost.
Bingo. That is the point I reached in my catholic life. I got so frustrated, struggling against sin, and I was still convinced I was on my way to Hell, and there wasnt a single, solitary thing I could do about it. Since I was sure, that as a Catholic, I was going to hell anyway, I figured I might as well enjoy the ride, so I began to eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow I died. By then, I was sick of Catholicism, that I was ready to hear the simple truth of the REAL gospel. 😁
A the fact that you recognized there wasnt a single solitary thing you could do about it showed more wisdom than the entire roman church. There is nothing we can do about it. Only Christ can save us
In post 423 I responded to and refuted ADSUM's response to the statement in the first sentence above, but since I had only quoted the first sentence in her(?) response then she sent me a FReepmail response protesting this since she seems to think someone may think the offering charge was from her.
In response I stated that in hindsight I see that I could and should have put in brackets "Your [Manly Warrior] comment," and would issue a clarification to her reply, though I think the chances of anyone thinking she made the statement she find offensive is small.
Thus to confirm, ADSUM did not make the comment: “All the RCC extra Biblical doctrine of transubstantiation etc. stem from pagan roots of Isis/Osiris Baal and Dagon" and which she protested against, of which protest I later included in my response in post 423.
Of course, you’re right. Im referring to the people who thought they were Christians, but Jesus said get away from Me, I never knew you.
They are irreconcilable, but what if neither belief is necessary for salvation? What if one can have heretical beliefs and still go to Heaven, if you believe in Jesus and His resurrection?
I know when I was younger I was quite confused in many theological beliefs, but I dont think those errant beliefs disqualified me from Heaven.
Im quite sure that now, though older, I still have errant beliefs and sins I havent seen yet. I also dont believe they disqualify me from Heaven.
For I believe one thing more than any other: Jesus Christ died to set me free, to raise me up to be with Him in Heaven if I believe in His death and resurrection...which I wholeheartedly do.
I think all else is fluff, chazerai. Though obviously its good to have deeper and deeper understanding of Scripture, I just dont believe its necessary for salvation.
Jesus, the Son of God, was sent by the Father to restore the harmony between himself and humanity that had been disrupted by sin. He came to teach and show us love. We are here to know God, accept his Truth and love Him and our neighbor.
Your comment; “Looks like it is you who is making false statements about the Catholic faith as well as contradicting God’s Truth, His Word and your OWN Catechism!”
There was nothing that I said that contradicts the Catholic faith or Catholic Catechism. You make a blanket statement and then quote various parts of the Catholic Catechism.
Looks like Ol' Pete (and others) did a mighty poor job of it; according to the book Rome assembled!
Merely reading the first 3 chapters of Revelation proves the "Catholic Church" couldn't teach SQUAWT!
Didn't I just PROVE this?
Heck; she should have her own comic book since she OBVIOUSLY has Super Powers!
from Sketch of the Life and Labours of J. N. Darby
John Nelson Darby on adoration (hyperdulia or dulia)
The correctness of a formal and deliberate confession of faith is not always of itself a sufficient safeguard against error, in the habitual impression of the mind. The Romanists flatter themselves that they are safe from idolatry, because they distinctly acknowledge the truth, that GOD only is to be served (namely, with latria), though they allow adoration (hyperdulia and dulia) to the Virgin and their saints, to images, and to relics. To which it has been justly replied, that, supposing this distinction correct in itself, it would be in practice nugatory, since the mass of the people must soon, as experience proves, lose sight of it entirely in their habitual devotions.
So true!
Just THINK of all the time you’ve saved; being able to do other stuff!
Well; at least SOMEONE addressed what I posted!
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