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Should we Evangelize Protestants ?
The Catholic Thing ^ | August 9th, 2020 | Casey Chalk

Posted on 08/09/2020 7:46:24 AM PDT by MurphsLaw

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To: ADSUM

“ So how do you know that the Blessed Mother was a sinner? You don’t have that knowledge. If you rely on Romans 3:23, Not all without exception is clear: Christ, children below age of reason,mentally challenged and tradition holds that Mary, by the grace of God was conceived without sin(Scripture) and lived her entire life unstained by sin.”

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Christ was God and man - the only human who was born sinless and the only human who committed no sins by omission nor commission.

All other humans are born with a fallen nature... the life of Adam.

All other humans commit sins.

It is likely God will cover the sins of children and mentally challenged.

But the too we’re born separated by a fallen nature through Adam and will need to be forgiven by the blood of Christ.

Mary was both born only human with the life of Adam and committed sin. Scripture makes no Mary exception. And she herself says Christ was her Savior. She needed on!


701 posted on 08/19/2020 4:14:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: ADSUM

“ and the truth that Jesus established the Catholic Church”

Totally reject this assumption of yours, since your church adds paganism to scripture and subtracts the Gospel of Grace that leads to salvation.


702 posted on 08/19/2020 4:18:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: metmom
That is not the phrase “mortal sin”.

When I was a catholic, I committed 5 mortal sins a minute. I couldn’t stay in the state of grace. 😁🤗 Now, the truth. EVERY sin, is a mortal sin, and it only takes ONE sin in a person’s life, to send them to hell. JUST ONE. I think this so called sin unto death, refers to physical death. 👍

703 posted on 08/19/2020 4:18:56 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: Mark17

And we know that all sin kills.

Any sin is disobedience to God.

The issue isn’t the particular sin we commit. The issue is the holy God to whom the sin is an affront.

James 2:10-11 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.


704 posted on 08/19/2020 4:43:28 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM

There you go again, just assuming that what you believe is already true without offering an iota of proof for it and then condescending to everyone around you.

I’d rather stick with what my Lord and His Apostles actually say, as recorded in Scripture, than what you claim is true. Especially when your claims are heretical against what the Lord Christ and the Apostles actually taught and preached and wrote.


705 posted on 08/19/2020 4:52:14 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: metmom

It’s kind of funny that Catholics LOVE James so much only to completely ignore him when he contradicts what they’ve already decided is true.


706 posted on 08/19/2020 4:53:03 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: metmom; Mark17

The RCC has a huge problem.
The Law involves the flesh
Sin results from breaking the Law
To attempt to follow the Law in order to be justified is impossible because that system is completely flesh based.
And by the flesh shall NO MAN BE JUSTIFIED.
If you are trying to keep the Law to be justified before God, you can only count on your works of your flesh. God says that you will never be justified by the Law, works.

Why is this so hard to understand?


707 posted on 08/19/2020 4:55:46 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: smvoice

Easy to understand.

Impossible to believe without intervention from the Holy Spirit.

After all, before the regeneration of the Holy Spirit, we were dead in our sins. Not dying, not in danger, but dead. And a corpse can do nothing but decay.


708 posted on 08/19/2020 5:21:23 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: ADSUM; metmom; MayflowerMadam; Elsie
So how do you know that the Blessed Mother was a sinner? You don’t have that knowledge

How do you know Semiramis, oops, I mean Mary wasn’t? You don’t have that knowledge. Actually, I DID mean Semiramis, wife of Nimrod, was the first Queen of Heaven. Her name changed, through different cultures and languages. Diana of the Ephesians, was another one. Mary, just happens to be the latest queen of Heaven. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out, why religions need female deities. There are others, like in India, but it’s false doctrine. Why do people believe false doctrine? Maybe they think Jesus isn’t strong enough to accomplish the plan of salvation by himself. Maybe they have too much pride, and like to think it’s nice to be able to help God. He DOESN’T need anyone’s help.
I respect the Mary of scripture, but the Mary of scripture is different than the queen of Heaven. I choose NOT to worship Mary. (dictionary definition of worship) If others want to worship her, I fail to see where that is my problem. 😁 I hope you are in the right crowd of people, at the great white throne judgment. It will be much better, if you are a witness for the prosecution, than a defendant. That’s your choice bro. I am comfortable where I am. 👍

709 posted on 08/19/2020 5:27:10 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: ADSUM
So how do you know that the Blessed Mother was a sinner? You don’t have that knowledge

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710 posted on 08/19/2020 5:37:35 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: smvoice
Why is this so hard to understand?

Well, it’s not hard for you and I to understand, since we have now been enlightened. As you know, those who are natural men (and women) are spiritually blind, and cannot possibly comprehend spiritual principles under any circumstances. I mentioned, when I was a catholic, I was completely spiritually blind. I even believed in evolution, which is the epitome of spiritual blindness. Now, I have spiritual insight, but certainly not when I was a catholic. 👍

711 posted on 08/19/2020 5:43:37 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: smvoice
To understand the Truth you present the Catholic religion would have to set their imaginary purgatory aside, because that imagined realm is said to cleanse the 'flesh' / behavior mechanism of soul and body for entry into Heaven. Since they must maintain this false doctrine, they also must reject the moment when GOD has PROMISED to in a twinkling of an ey give His Born Agains a new behavior mechanism and new body, fit for the sinless spirit to inhabit eternally.

Satan loves it when these in their religion go on and on about cleansing the flesh because it is avoiding The Turth of the Gospel of Grace which cleanses THE SPIRIT and has GOD ABIDING therein thereafter.

712 posted on 08/19/2020 6:08:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Your statement:”I won’t say, “Blessed Mother”, ‘cause that’s blasphemous.”

So you reject God’s Word in Scripture. Luke 1: 42-48 That is rejecting Jesus Christ.

There is mortal or deadly or grave sins and that is also in the Bible that will prevent one from entering Heaven. They are not automatically forgiven. You should note that the sin against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come (Purgatory).

How does it benefit you to call the Blessed Mother a sinner? There is no way that you can know. So you are saying that God can’t take away sin before it has a chance to be committed? The Blessed Mother was given special graces and she was perfectly obedient to God’s will. (So you can prevent God from allowing her to be Holy and free of sin?) At the very least you may be making a false statement and perhaps a mortal sin of calumny (telling lies about another). This opinion must come from Satan.

May you find and believe God’s Truth before your death. Rejecting the Blessed Mother is what Satan desires and may affect your salvation.


713 posted on 08/19/2020 6:37:21 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

The text says that Mary is counted as blessed among women. It gives her no title of “Blessed Mother.”

I’ll credit you for actually citing the text for once, even if you have to stretch the text far beyond what it actually says in order to try to prove your point.


714 posted on 08/19/2020 6:43:48 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: MHGinTN

Amen. “Ye workers of iniquity” takes on a special meaning. They think their works justify. But their works are filth and the height of pride and evilness before God.

It isn’t people doing bad things, it’s people doing good things with bad intentions- trying to impress God and exchanging His way of reconciliation with their own way of reconciling their life to a Holy God.


715 posted on 08/19/2020 6:50:15 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: metmom

A “sin unto death” is a mortal sin (by definition).

Not all sins are “unto death”. It’s really quite simple.

If there are not mortal and non-mortal (venial) sins, what does the passage mean? The distinction is quite clear, i think.

No, I do not have a list.

P.S. I am not Roman Catholic.


716 posted on 08/19/2020 6:50:17 PM PDT by newberger (Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.)
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To: ADSUM
So how many unconfessed sins do you have?

Heck; I don't even know how many unknown ones I have!

717 posted on 08/19/2020 6:56:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Your comment: “The number of unconfessed sins in our lives is irrelevant.”

That is just what Satan wants.

Christ dying on the cross open the Gates of Heaven if we can find the narrow gate and Keep His commandments. Christ did not forgive your future sins. We are required to repent, confess and do penance for our sins. Catholics have the Sacrament of Reconciliation to restore us to friendship with God after confession for mortal sins. All baptized Catholics can and should make use of that forgiveness of sins.

You should read the life of many saints such as St Augustine that were serious sinners and came to the truth of the Catholic faith and through a process became holy. Even St Paul was a serious sinner.


718 posted on 08/19/2020 6:57:23 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: MHGinTN

Swim in the wrong ocean and you make face Great White Shark judgement!


719 posted on 08/19/2020 6:58:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: smvoice

Amen!


720 posted on 08/19/2020 7:03:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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