Should we Evangelize Protestants ?

The Catholic Thing ^ | August 9th, 2020 | Casey Chalk

[ebb tide]

I can’t help it if facts insult you. But I can pray for you.

[Luircin]

Are you going to apologize for calling me Lurch?

[ebb tide]

Sure. I didn’t know it offended you.

You’ve never complained before.

[Mom MD]

Try the athanasian creed ebb - held as true by the Roman Church

3. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;

4. Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance.

5. For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit.

6. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.

see the part about not confounding the persons?

[Luircin]

You’ve never complained before.

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So claiming that you never insult people and then actually insulting people is only a lie if they complain about it?

Apology—somewhat amusedly—accepted.

[ebb tide]

Sure there is. It's right there in your post:

6. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.

[Mom MD]

You are such a good cherry picking catholic. The two lines before it:

4. Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance.

5. For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit.

Or do you really state that the Father the Son and the Spirit are not separate persons?

[ebb tide]

So claiming that you never insult people.

I've never claimed that. But I do admit I may have insulted some folks for proclaiming the Catholic faith. Didn't Jesus Christ insult some folks?

Speaking of that, what do you find as gobbledy gook in the Preface of the Holy Trinity in post #630?

Specifics, please.

[ebb tide]

You’re so funny.

The Athanasian Creed is not in scripture. So much for “sola scriptura” defense!

[Mom MD]

changing the subject. The Roman church recognizes the athanasian creed as authoritative. an asked you if you believe what your church recognizes not a discussion of sola scriptura. You never answer a question. just change the subject and deflect. good night ebb

[ebb tide]

Or do you really state that the Father the Son and the Spirit are not separate persons?

No.

See post #630. That's what I believe.

[ebb tide]

I’m not changing the subject.

It was you who have been arguing sola scriptura and I’m pointing out your hypocrisy in going outside of it.

[ebb tide]

You never answer a question.

I have answered it. See post #630. Do you have problems with the Preface of the Holy Trinity? If so, what are they?

[MHGinTN]

Ebb, this protestant's definition of sola scriptura is that the Word of God has all that is needed for Salvation because The Word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword, able to separate soul and spirit and thus have GOD birth me again, in the spirit, where the Word of God tells me He, GOD, abides thereafter, in my born again spirit.

What you keep projecting is not what this protestant has learned sola scriptura means. But that is understandable since as a Catholic you do not believe one can be born again until death and the many 'works of righteousness' you imagine you have done to earn eternal life are counted up.

I am convinced that Jesus eliminated works of righteousness for any who are not born again because without The Righteousness of Christ imputed to the human spirit there is no righteousness to be source for works of righteousness.

[metmom]

Neither is.....

Catholic

Blessed Mother

Mother of God

Trinity

pope

purgatory

sacrament

holy water

confirmation

sacred tradition

catechism

eucharist

rosary

assumption (especially of Mary)

immaculate conception

And a whole host of other fables that Catholicism purports to be truth on par with God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.

[metmom]

So, Catholic religious reasoning goes thus....

Mary is the mother of Jesus, and Jesus is God, therefore, Mary is the mother of God.

Continued is, God is three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

If Mary is mother of God, and mother of God the Son, then Mary is mother of God the Father, and God, the Holy Spirit as well.

Or are you denying that the Father and the Holy Spirit are God?

Then how can Mary be the *faithful spouse of the Holy Spirit*, if she’s his mom?

[metmom]

I’m not changing the subject. It was you who have been arguing sola scriptura and I’m pointing out your hypocrisy in going outside of it.

Yes you are, in this very post as you are claiming you are not changing the subject.

You are claiming that MomMD is has been arguing sola scriptura, so I checked out her posting history looking for where she did that on this thread and found ZERO places where she even came near addressing it.

So it appears that you are falsely accusing MomMD of something she did not do.

So you could either show us the posts where she did this, or man up and apologize for falsely accusing her of something she did not do.

[metmom]

Catholics like to make up strawmen about what they think sola scriptura is and knock it down and then demand we defend some fabrication they invented.

Time and again they’ve been told what we define it as, and it falls on deaf ears. I have not met one FRoman who ever even acknowledged how we define it as nor accepted the correction to their errant belief.

They just double down on their fabrication, and their demands we defend their mistaken ideas.

It’s kind or ironic that the group that claims responsibility for giving us Scripture and claims that it is the only entity capable of correctly interpreting it, fights its authority so hard.

They claim their prelate, the so called pope, can speak infallibly and has supreme authority but when it comes to acknowledging that Scripture, as God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Divine revelation is authoritative and adequate to bring us to salvation, and equip us for every good work, complete in Christ, the teeth gnashing begins.

And after claiming they wrote the Scripture which they now claim isn’t good enough, they tell us to accept sacred tradition and ex cathedra statements and trust them.

Why is beyond me because if the very Scripture they claim to have authored is so inadequate that it now needs to be added to, why should we trust them to get it right this time?

[Elsie]

So are you committing heresy by saying that Jesus is not divine and human?

At least you start your strawman with a question; even though it is the same as the, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" one.

[Elsie]

So you do not believe the Bible:

Your statement/accusation SO reeks of hypocrisy!