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To: MayflowerMadam
Mary is the new ark? Never heard that one before. I did hear that she’s an Untier Of Knots, though. That’s cool; I could use her when I’m quilting.

I never heard either of those things when I was a catholic. It looks like, maybe this was added after I left, or maybe it just wasn’t emphasized in my Catholic Church.
Someone said, and it may very well be true, that Mary is not mentioned in scripture, beyond being with the disciples, because God knew some would try to turn her into a demigoddess, and He didn’t want to give that false doctrine any credence at all. Just my opinion, but for those who say they don’t worship Mary, I would say, if they believe she is anything MORE, than just a mortal sinner, saved by grace, THAT is worship. 🤗

561 posted on 08/17/2020 4:04:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: Mark17

The mother-son co-god belief is very common among many pagan “faiths”.


562 posted on 08/17/2020 4:07:19 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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To: ADSUM; metmom

So you get called out on referring to Mary as divinity, and your response is to cop to it, and then literally take the glory that is due to Christ alone and give it to another AGAIN?

Dude, you already let slip that you worship Mary when you accused metmom of blasphemy specifically against her. All the backpedaling in the world isn’t going to weasel you out of that one.

Better to confess that you were worshipping a false goddess and repent of it than insist that you didn’t REALLY mean it.


563 posted on 08/17/2020 4:20:12 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: MayflowerMadam
The mother-son co-god belief is very common among many pagan “faiths”.

Yes it is. I think I have previously mentioned, that the false catholic doctrine, of Mary worship (yes, it’s worship) originated with Nimrod and Semiramis. The name was Semiramis, but changed, in different cultures and different languages. Now, a certain religion, which will remain unnamed, though we all know what it is, call the false queen of Heaven, Mary. The queen of Heaven was mentioned in Jeremiah, but I believe the name was Semiramis. Of course, I didn’t know this when I was a catholic. They didn’t advertise it, cuz they didn’t want their stuff exposed.

564 posted on 08/17/2020 4:47:29 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: Mark17

Asherah too.


565 posted on 08/17/2020 4:48:03 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin; Mom MD

Perhaps you should return to 3rd grade so that you can learn to comprehend the written word?

And your written word is not logical and contains lies.

When MomMD states in 231 “Wow. Your Jesus is so impotent He has to ask mommy to appeal to people on His behalf?” Blasphemy consists “in uttering against God - inwardly or outwordly - words of hatred, reproach or defiance.”

You should treat the Mother of God with respect and not make false statements that Catholics worship her.

Peace.


566 posted on 08/17/2020 5:06:40 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Luircin
Catholics are taught that being Catholic makes you better than everyone else. Not a forgiven sinner, but morally and intellectually superior, and the ONLY group deserving of salvation because of all their good works. The pride of being in “the one true church” is a lure that is hard to escape.

I am not sure they are word for word, taught they are better than everyone else, but the other factors you mentioned, surely indicate it’s true. Now, me personally? I never really thought I was personally superior, and maybe that is another reason why I had no problem leaving the Catholic Church. 😁🤗🤣👍

567 posted on 08/17/2020 5:18:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: Luircin
Yes, that was just another name, among many, for the queen of Heaven. Others, were Madonna (not the singer😁) Isis, Demeter, Diana (Ephesians). Interesting, however, is that Semiramis claimed to have given birth to Tammuz as a Virgin. Hmmm, wonder where that came from? 😁
Lots of GREAT information here. I will say it again, if one prays to a person, in this instance, Maty, they are making a god out of her. That is worship, no matter how many times they may deny it. 🤑
568 posted on 08/17/2020 6:08:14 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: Mark17
Oops, Mary, not Maty. 🤗
569 posted on 08/17/2020 6:09:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: ADSUM
God was very specific about every exact detail of the ark (Ex 25-30)

HA! This was about the physical Ark of the Covenant in the Jewish Temple. NOT about Mary.

How much more would he want his Word—Jesus—to have a perfect dwelling place!

Here is where you went off the Biblical rails, making up things that are not in Scripture.

In Revelation 5:8 John saw the Lamb, Christ Jesus, on a throne in the midst of four beasts and 24 elders. When the Lamb took the book with the seven seals, the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb in worship, “each one having a harp and golden bowls of incenses, which are the prayers of the saints.”

NEITHER passage says ANYONE EVER prayed to a saint. It simply says the elders presented incense, which were the prayers of the saints.

Further, no Apostle EVER prayed to a departed saint in Scripture.

Totally made up by people after paganism entered the Roman religion.

This is a beautiful image of how the intercession of the saints works. Because the saints are so close to the fire of God’s love and because they stand immediately before him, they can set our prayers on fire with their love and release the power of our prayers.

Totally made up again.

The doctrine of the Assumption of Mary began with a historical event to which Scripture alludes and that been believed in the Church for 2,000 years. It was passed down in the oral tradition of the Church and developed over the centuries, but it was always believed by the Catholic faithful.

Never in Scripture ever. Totally made up. Convenient no one ever wrote this down when it purportedly happened. No Apostle taught it. No writings before 100 ad reference it. Bogus.

Your whole post is just made up things ADSUM.

570 posted on 08/17/2020 6:11:26 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: ADSUM

What part of the Spirit in Jesus did the Catholic Mary contribute to?


571 posted on 08/17/2020 6:12:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ADSUM
You should treat the Mother of God with respect and not make false statements that Catholics worship her.

Can you prove no Catholics worship mary? No.

572 posted on 08/17/2020 6:12:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Adsum may be fooling his flock and even himself with his fancy semantics about veneration vs worship but you know who he is not fooling? God


573 posted on 08/17/2020 6:16:30 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ADSUM; metmom

Hahaha.

As a great man once said, “If they call the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household!”

Thank you for confirming that we’re in the right.

It’s awfully easy to get under your skin; don’t like being reminded that you outright admitted to idolatry?


574 posted on 08/17/2020 6:21:59 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Mom MD
Yup!


 

The Dormition of the Mother of God is a Great Feast of the Eastern Orthodox,

Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Churches which commemorates the "falling asleep"

or death of Mary the Theotokos ("Mother of God", literally translated as God-bearer),

and her bodily resurrection before being taken up into heaven.

(She got to move to the head of the line...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dormition_of_the_Mother_of_God

 

575 posted on 08/17/2020 6:23:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Luircin
By the way, here, IS the dictionary definition of “worship,” and they still deny they worship Mary. I am not buying it bro. 😁🤣
576 posted on 08/17/2020 6:25:09 PM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: Mom MD

Standby for outrageous claims!!

 
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/treatise-on-true-devotion-to-the-blessed-virgin-6064 

577 posted on 08/17/2020 6:25:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mom MD
cultus indebitus
 
https://forums.catholic.com/t/when-does-it-begins-to-be-cultus-indebitus/378023/3
 
 
https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/whatever-happened-supernatural 

578 posted on 08/17/2020 6:26:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Sheer breathtaking blasphemy and apostasy


579 posted on 08/17/2020 6:30:35 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ADSUM
The Blessed Mother was assumed body and soul into Heaven and is alive with her son.

Says who?


The Catholic Church teaches as dogma that the Virgin Mary
"having completed the course of her earthly life,
was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory".[4]
 
This doctrine was dogmatically defined by Pope Pius XII on 1 November 1950,
in the apostolic constitution Munificentissimus Deus by exercising papal infallibility.[5]
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Mary
 
 
1950 WHAT?!?!?!?
 
 

580 posted on 08/17/2020 6:30:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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