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Posted on 08/09/2020 7:46:24 AM PDT by MurphsLaw
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The Catholic Catechism is based on the authority that Jesus gave His Catholic Church
Nonsense.
The Roman Church today wouldnt be recognized by the Apostles.
The shrines to Mary
The gay costumery
The gay clergy
Priests
Pagan rituals...
How can your church have so many different doctrines about Gods Truth?
Dude, your (gay) clergy cant even agree with each other...
Mr. Adsum, please pick up the courtesy phone.
But LUTHER!
Bwahahahaha ... you’ve been eavesdropping I see.
Tell me, Adsum, how could readings from BOTH the Old and New Testaments be included in the Mass for 2000 years if according to you it was "before the Bible was written"??? Wanna walk that one back?
The problem with Catholics is that they do not understand what GRACE is.
Tell me, Adsum, how could readings from BOTH the Old and New Testaments be included in the Mass for 2000 years if according to you it was “before the Bible was written”??? Wanna walk that one back?
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ADSUM doesn’t understand that Catholics didn’t have a Bible at all until after Luther. They just had a collection of books but no official canon of Scripture.
There’s a reason that many Catholic Bibles still included the Gnostic Gospel of Nicodemus at the time of Luther, and why the books that became known as the Apocrypha were still being debated among scholars.
It’s really pathetic to claim that Catholicism wrote the Bible when they hadn’t even assembled a canon of Scripture 1500 years after Jesus.
And the misspeaks are just generally hilarious; I’ll bet that he’s getting angrier and angrier the more he can’t answer the truth.
Must be a special charism given to you that you can determine what "Protestants" think and believe in their hearts. Just because I do not rely upon my works to merit my salvation doesn't mean I don't DO any good works! What changed in my conversion from the false gospel of Catholicism was my motivation for living a holy, obedient life. The reason that happened was because God revealed to my heart the TRUE gospel that I am saved by His unmerited, undeserved, unearned grace through faith/trust/believing in His promises and NOT on the basis of my works.
What do you think honors God and brings glory to Him more - someone who does good works out of the fear of hell or one who does them out of a grateful and loving heart for what God has done for him? I'm thinking it's the latter. In fact...I don't believe doing good works because we are afraid God will send us to hell if we don't is a sign of genuine faith at all. It is telling me that person DOUBTS what God has promised and revealed in His word and they think the onus is on them to work their way to heaven - to makes themselves worthy of eternal life. And that is contrary to what the Good News is all about.
This is why Catholicism accuses those who believe in the assurance of their salvation - that we can KNOW we have eternal life - of the "sin of presumption". If it all depends upon what I do, then I can't know I am saved because I won't know if I have been good enough or die in the "state of grace" by my actions until that moment. If, on the other hand according to Scripture, my salvation depends upon what Christ has done for me by being the once-for-all sacrifice for sin and I believe in and accept Him as my Savior, then I CAN trust God's promise that everyone who believes in Him has eternal life.
Can you see now why I reject the accursed Gospel of Catholicism and it would be wrong for me to return? Your catechism states that "they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it." Well, I do NOT believe that is a true statement. I reject that entering the Catholic church is necessary for me to be saved. I know you do and you certainly have the freedom to believe whatever you want. You should be happy that someone who leaves your church STILL remains in the Christian faith and lives in obedience to Christ giving glory to God. I will continue to trust in Christ to save me rather than a church.
And even if he did ask you, his OWN catechism acknowledges:
Nor do they understand the concept of forgiveness.
Catholicism teaches that forgiveness is something you have to earn or merit. Or work for by doing something like penance.
It completely denies the very concept of forgiveness, which is a complete freedom from penalty or debt by the person wronged.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forgive
1) to cease to feel resentment against (an offender) : pardon eg...forgive one’s enemies
2a : to give up resentment of or claim to requital (see requital sense 1) for forgive an insult
b : to grant relief from payment of
Forgiveness is FREELY given by the offended.
It cannot be worked for or earned. A person cannot demand forgiveness. If it’s not freely given for no cost to the guilty party, then it’s not forgiveness.
We are declared righteous before God based on forgiveness, HIM choosing to forgive our sin debt and relate to us as if the sin never happened. When He forgives us, we owe God NOTHING for the sin we committed because God has chosen to release us from the penalty due for it.
Just...wow....
And God the Son had to get crucified to do it!
It’s horrifying that Catholics think that their own good deeds can earn credit anywhere near comparison to what Jesus did for us.
I have read that "forgiveness" is giving up my right to get even with the one who wronged me. We have ALL sinned and fall way, way short of the perfection/glory of God. The wages of sin is DEATH. Only by blood is there atonement for the soul. God requires a life to be taken - the sacrifice for sin is death and Christ made that sacrifice for all. The sinless, spotless Lamb of God, by His blood made eternal propitiation for all our sins. God has made that payment FOR us and by Christ's blood we are redeemed. God forgives the sin debt we owe - and could only have paid by our individual eternal deaths. It boggles my mind how some people STILL think they have to add their own scrawny, putrid, filthy works on top of that!
*,usic* Do you believe in magic
Here’s the “M” my big fingers missed
Abracadabra!
Hocu pocus
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