Mass with 2 Protestants and 1 Crucifix

Well, if Jesus never commanded anyone to write down the gospels, why did the Catholic so-.called church take it on themselves to do so? You do realize, don’t you, that that is the weakest, lamest argument going? It’s absolutely pathetic that Catholics use it. Thus the RC argument goes,

Jesus never commanded anyone to write down anything; He left a church, not a book.

The Catholic church gave you the Bible.

You cannot surely know what the contents of Scripture are, and what it surely means unless The Church® tells you.

We know the Catholic church is true because the Bible says so.

For Rome has presumed to infallibly declare she is and will be perpetually infallible whenever she speaks in accordance with her infallibly defined (scope and subject-based) formula, which renders her declaration that she is infallible, to be infallible, as well as all else she accordingly declares.

And can never teach salvific error otherwise. And around and around she downward goes, tragically as the gates of Hell of multitudes.

What theological significance such as salvation, heaven, or hell do they bring to the New Covenant that wasn’t clearly explained in our current New Testament?

Unanswered questions, yet I would not surprised if a RC pipes up with 2 Maccabees 12 in support of RC purgatory (RCP). But which is not referring to RCP, in which souls are assured of salvation by atoning for sins thru suffering becoming good enough to actually be with God, for the fact is that the offerings in 2 Maccabees 12:40-45 were for those who died due to mortal sin in hope that they may see the resurrection (of the just), and thus the offerings were not that they may escape from purgatory . "Now under the coats of every one that was slain they found things consecrated to the idols of the Jamnites, which is forbidden the Jews by the law. Then every man saw that this was the cause wherefore they were slain. ..they saw before their eyes the things that came to pass for the sins of those that were slain" - 2 Maccabees 12:40,42) For which mortal sinners there is no hope according to Rome herself.

Early Church Fathers How EARLY were they??

Most were not very early, and the Catholic church (EO or RC) decide who they were and what they mean*, and none were NT church fathers, and increasingly are seen the accretion of traditions of men.

Historical testimony to the progressive deformation of the church. Including falsified history

* Thus are explained both her respect for the writings of the Fathers of the Church and her supreme independence towards those writings–she judges them more than she is judged by them.” — Catholic Encyclopedia: “Tradition and Living Magisterium” http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15006b.htm

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