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To: unlearner

1 Thess.5:9 “For God hath NOT appointed us to WRATH, BUT to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.”

And

Romans 5:9. “Much more then, being NOW JUSTIFIED by His blood, we SHALL BE SAVED FROM WRATH THROUGH HIM”.


70 posted on 05/08/2020 7:54:59 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: smvoice

And here is a more full offering of the Andy Woods defense of 2 Thess 2:3 as The Departure of believers who have God abiding in their spirit (1 John 3:9): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU-S22S5gTM


76 posted on 05/08/2020 8:13:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: smvoice

Yes, through Christ believers escape God’s wrath—presently, later during the Day of the Lord, and in eternity.

The trouble with modern eschatology is the failure to distinguish the Day of the Lord from the Great Tribulation as well as Daniel’s seventieth week (sometimes referred to as the “tribulation period”).

The Great Tribulation immediately precedes the Day of the Lord.

The tribulation period (Daniel’s seventieth week) begins with worldwide peace and worldwide deception. See Revelation 6:4 and Matthew 24:4-5.

The Great Tribulation begins with the abomination of desolation, in which the antichrist breaks his 7-year peace treaty with Israel by desecrating the third temple. See Matthew 24:15-22.

This event also must precede the Day of the Lord. See 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

The Day of the Lord does not begin quietly or subtly like Daniel’s seventieth week. Rather it is accompanied by sudden destruction and the outpouring of fire from Heaven by the Holy angels. See 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Thessalonians 1:8.

Nor is it a time in which man exalts himself as antichrist does in the ultimate act of pride and rebellion at the abomination of desolation in which he declares himself to be God. See 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and Isaiah 2:12.

An event unique in human history will mark the end of the Great Tribulation and the imminence of the Day of the Lord: a simultaneous eclipse of the sun, moon, and stars. Note that this event comes AFTER the Great Tribulation but BEFORE the Day of the Lord:

Joel 2:31 (NKJV)
The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD.

Matthew 24:29 (NKJV)
Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.


152 posted on 05/09/2020 11:15:42 AM PDT by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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