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To: MHGinTN

Is one born again and then good works follow,
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Dude, here’s what’s obvious to everyone with a normally functioning brain: If doing the good works/deeds commanded throughout the Scriptures was the assured result of being “born again” it would have been unnecessary for James to have warned Christians that faith without works is dead!


330 posted on 05/14/2020 2:19:57 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat; MHGinTN

On the contrary, there is no problem with that.

*Faith* without works is mere intellectual assent. It does not save anyone as a lot of people acknowledge God. The pharisees did and they certainly were not saved.

Adding faith to intellectual assent also does not result in the new birth. Again the pharisees attest to that.

The new birth WILL result in good works. It has to. It’s just the natural out working of the inner working of the Holy Spirit in one. So if you don’t see that change in your life, then it’s well within reason to question the person’s salvation.


331 posted on 05/14/2020 2:32:26 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
Aside from your usual insulting methodology and arrogant disdain, you are lumping scriptures aimed at Jews under the covenant God made with Israel, and the new covenant God as Jesus made with ALL WHO WILL BELIVEW in Whom God has sent for our deliverance. Any further posts in response to you are useless since you are more knowledgeable that Paul according to your posts assumptions.It must have taken you years to refine this insulting snipe mode. I for one am not amused, so I'll just warn you to not take the mark soon to be commanded to you.
340 posted on 05/14/2020 4:12:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

BTW, James was writing to Jews many of whom were not Christians byut wanted to be in the ghroup with. He differentiated what evidences a truly born again and one that is striving to obtain what can only come to one as Grace from God, not wages for following the Torah.


341 posted on 05/14/2020 4:14:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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