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To: Philsworld
Not about luck, it is about the Promise of God that we born agains are not appointed to wrath but to obtain deliverance from the wrath (1 Thess 1;10). Thank you for this opportunity to share more about the Gospel of Grace, the particulars of what Salvation means.

Are you familiar with 1 John 3 ? In that chapter of his letter he first tells us that when Jesus appears in the air (the first Heaven) to gather us to Himself we shall see Him as He is in His glorified state (1 John 3:5), because the moment before we see Him we will have been changed in the twinkling of an eye to share in His spacetime coordinate system which allowed Him to do the amazing things described AFTER His resurrection (for those who want to know what their new body and soul will be able to do).

Then John explains that we born agains have a new spirit where God ABIDES so that our newborn spirit cannot sin! (1 John 3:9).

249 posted on 05/12/2020 11:51:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

“Not about luck, it is about the Promise of God that we born agains are not appointed to wrath but to obtain deliverance from the wrath (1 Thess 1;10).”


Noah and his family were delivred from the wrath of God and went safely THROUGH the flood.

Lot and his family were delivered (excepting his wife) from the wrath of God and went safely THROUGH the destruction of Sodom.

Those alive during the tribulation will be delivered from the wrath of God and He will protect us THROUGH the plagues.


250 posted on 05/12/2020 2:21:50 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN

So, “born agains” can’t sin? first time I’ve ever heard of that. That would make you like a robot with no free choice. Or, is it that if you do sin you get a free pass without your need to ask for repentance and then sin no more sort of thing? Completely contrary to the entire bible... are you talking about on this earth or in heaven? Satan sinned. Why didn’t he get a free pass?

Yes, those who will be alive at the end of the world when Christ returns, at the very end of everything, after the tribulation/plagues, will be changed in the twinkling of an eye and meet Christ in the air, then off to heaven....not before. No secret rapture. No 7 years to make deals with the Jews, Nada. No second chances for anyone else to convert.


251 posted on 05/12/2020 2:39:08 PM PDT by Philsworld
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