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To: Dark Knight

I hear what you are saying, and though I agree that no human being can fully comprehend all who and what God is, He is the source of rationality, logic, and reason. He also imparted that ability to His human creation. Of course He often defies logic and reason for His purposes, but for the most part, He has revealed Himself to us in Scripture in rational ways, perceptible ways, and in language we can comprehend. He has revealed, in Scripture that His character exhibits the following traits:

1. Hebrews 6:17-18. People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged.

2. Titus 1:1-2. Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ to further the faith of God’s elect and their knowledge of the truth that leads to godliness— in the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time, and which now at his appointed season he has brought to light through the preaching entrusted to me by the command of God our Savior,

3. Numbers 23:19. God is not human, that he should lie,
not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

4. I Samuel 15:29. He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind.”

5. Isaiah 1:18. “Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the Lord, “Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool.

My point is that God uses rationality to reveal Himself - you expressed your view using a reasoned argument. So, it appears from Scripture God has limited Himself because of His character, His nature. So, I would not say God is beyond rationality, but that there are certain attributes of God that are beyond complete human comprehension. Does that make sense? By the way, hope you and you’re family are well and safe.


36 posted on 04/02/2020 10:51:41 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Thank you and I hope you and yours are well and safe as well.

Rationality is a tool for analysis of the truth or falsity of a proposition. I would pose that you are arguing in the same vein I do, the use of rationality as a pointer of direction, but not as a determiner of truth.

I believe, but it has never been because of logic or rationality. But I do not doubt the truth of it. The deceiver would use rationality, and that is a pointer to the problem with rationality as a proper tool. Years ago in a rather worthless class in logic, I found that there was scant difference in the for vs against arguments for the existence of God. Without revisiting, if you do not know the meaning of God, it is hard to use logic to prove it one way or the other.

Argument will only get one to the water’s edge. You have to choose to fall...

Free will.

DK


39 posted on 04/02/2020 6:00:04 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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