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To: Gamecock
Their adherents believe they have to do something to earn their way to heaven

Switching to your religion is doing something. If there is no need to do anything then religion, including your, is pointless.

6 posted on 03/04/2020 7:52:33 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill
Switching to your religion is doing something. If there is no need to do anything then religion, including your, is pointless.

Exactly correct.

31 posted on 03/04/2020 8:47:39 AM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Poison Pill

Off the mark. Religion saves no one. The blood of Jesus Christ saves anyone. But anyone must accept the Grace. The blood of The Christ is not a religion, it is a cure, a cure for the poison of sin. The Word of God tells you that it is God Who is in you both to will and do of His good pleasure. BUT He is in only those who accept His unmerited Grace, His Life in their spirit.


38 posted on 03/04/2020 9:03:01 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Poison Pill; Campion; fproy2222; circlecity; cuban leaf
Gamecock Their adherents believe they have to do something to earn their way to heaven

Switching to your religion is doing something. If there is no need to do anything then religion, including your, is pointless.

Note the word "earn" which qualifier is what you ignore.

Sola Fide does not mean one is born again and converted while comatose or the like, as if no response is needed, but that conversion is not the result of the merit of works, as if one obtains acceptance by God by actually becoming good enough and thereby enter Heaven thru Purgatory (as in Roman Catholicism).

Instead, it is the heart-purifying regenerating faith (Acts 10:43; 15:7-9) is counted for righteousness, making one accepted in the Beloved on His account, and made to spiritually sit with Christ in Heaven, by whose blood the believer has immediate access into the holy of holies in Heaven to petition God. (Eph. 1:6; 2:6; Heb. 10:19)

But that this requires a choice being made by the subject to believe ("if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved" (Romans 10:9), yet this does not earn salvation, and man deserves zero credit for doing so.

For man could not and would not believe on the Lord Jesus or follow Him unless God gave him life, and breath, and all good things he has, (Acts 17:25) and convicted him, (Jn. 16:8) drew him, (Jn. 6:44; 12:32) opened his heart, (Acts 16:14) and granted repentance (Acts 11:18) and gave faith, (Eph. 2:8,9) and then worked in him both to will and to do of His good pleasure the works He commands them to do. (Phil. 2:13; Eph. 2:10)

Thus man owes to God all things, (1 Chronicles 29:14; 1 Corinthians 4:7) and in conversion God enables and motivates man to do what he otherwise would not and would not do, and while man is guilty and rightly damned for resisting God contrary to the level of grace given him, (Prov. 1:20-31; Lk. 10:13; 12:48; Rv. 20:11-15) - which disobedience is the only thing man can take credit — under grace (which denotes unmerited favor) God has chosen to reward faith, (Heb. 10:35) in recognition of its effects, which obedience (again) God both enabled and motivated.

And which means that God justifies man without the merit of any works, which is what Romans 4:1-7ff teaches, with “works of the law” including all systems of justification by actually properly meriting it by works, “for, if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.” (Galatians 3:21)

However, saving faith effects obedience by the Spirit, (Romans 8:12-14) and justifies one as being a believer, and fit to be rewarded under grace for such, (Mt. 25:30-40; Rv. 3:4) though only because God has decided to reward man for what He Himself is to be actually properly credited for.

To God be the glory.

93 posted on 03/06/2020 4:17:35 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Poison Pill

Changing religion does nothing as no religion saves.

Only a person saves and that is Jesus Christ. And all you have to do is ask Him to save you and He will.

But since He knows the heart, He can see is someone is genuine about it or just a fraud.

When you are genuinely saved, your life will show it, and that doesn’t necessarily means *becoming religious*. It means becoming more like Jesus every day.


120 posted on 03/06/2020 10:33:40 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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