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To: Mom MD

Mom MD said: “praying to Mary and putting her in between the believer and Christ does offend Him. We are told there is but one mediator between God and man and that is Christ the Lord. Rationalize your treatment of Mary anyway you want but it is unbiblical idolatry”

And yet...

[11] I discover then the truth unto you, and I will not hide the secret from you. [12] When thou didst pray with tears, and didst bury the dead, and didst leave thy dinner, and hide the dead by day in thy house, and bury them by night, I offered thy prayer to the Lord. [13] And because thou wast acceptable to God, it was necessary that temptation should prove thee. [14] And now the Lord hath sent me to heal thee, and to deliver Sara thy son’s wife from the devil. [15] For I am the angel Raphael, one of the seven, who stand before the Lord. - Tobit 12:11-15 D-R Bible

[2] And I saw seven angels standing in the presence of God; and there were given to them seven trumpets. [3] And another angel came, and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God. [4] And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel. - Revelation 8:2-4 D-R Bible

So, the Archangels deliver our prayers to God. Pray tell me, how this possible if your interpretation is correct?

[1] I desire therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men: ... [2] For kings, and for all that are in high station: that we may lead a quiet and a peaceable life in all piety and chastity. ... [3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, [4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. ... [5] For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus: [6] Who gave himself a redemption for all, a testimony in due times.

Jesus Christ is the sole mediator between God and man, with regard to Redemption.

Besides, Jesus taught to us pray to God the Father by saying the Our Father. So, how does this jive with your response? Clearly, “there are more things in heaven... than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” - Hamlet (1.5.167-8)

Tradition guides understanding.


65 posted on 02/01/2020 5:17:30 AM PST by Grey182 (A Catholic Bishop Emeritus is still a Bishop, a Pope Emeritus... 209.157.64.200)
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To: Grey182

Hamlet and Tobit are not authoritative scripture.

Yes we are to pray but never are we told to pray to anyone but God. Never. Show me one instance in Scripture of Christ or the apostles addressing prayer to anyone but God. You can’t.

Christ is the only mediator between God and man period. There is no wiggle room in that verse.

Im still waiting for scripture to prove otherwise.


66 posted on 02/01/2020 5:25:21 AM PST by Mom MD
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