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To: Telepathic Intruder

well my point was...the NIV is calling Jesus the Devil.

Lucifer is not the morning star.


112 posted on 01/13/2020 12:58:35 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

Ah, I missed it. I think the term “morning star” is figurative, however. It can refer to more than one thing, depending on the circumstance. Lucifer was once a powerful angel of light, second only to God, who fell from heaven and corrupted mankind in the process. Something was needed to fix that—namely Jesus. So in a sense, Jesus replaced Satan as the figurative morning star, correcting things to what they should have been originally. Not only did Jesus come to save mankind, by the way, but to cleanse heaven of Satan’s corruption, which was also affected. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s the interpretation I recieved.


116 posted on 01/13/2020 1:13:41 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: I got the rope; Telepathic Intruder
Lucifer is not in the Hebrew Bible. It is the word הֵילֵל (heylel), which means "light-bearer".

"Lucifer" is Latin for "light-bearer", and is used in the Latin Vulgate to also mean "morning" or "morning/day star" (c.f. Job 11:17 and 2 Peter 1:19 in the Vulgate to any English translation).

117 posted on 01/13/2020 1:14:35 PM PST by kosciusko51
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