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To: G Larry
Rapture wasn’t INVENTED until 1830.

If you mean "pre-tribulation" rapture, then I'd basically agree -- still have to work out the ordering of events.

As for "rapture", this is a good bible word.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18)

"[we] shall be caught up" is English for ἁρπαγησόμεθα -- from [harpazo] seize, catch up, snatch away.

The Latin vulgate translates this as "rapiemur" from "rapio,-ere" -- to seize, snatch, tear away. "raptum" from which we get "rapture" is the perfect passive participle. "rapti" would refer to those raptured.

The question is not IF but WHEN. The Bible in Matthew 23, Mark 13, and Revelation 7,8 and Revelation 13,14 make a very strong case for a post-tribulation, pre-wrath rapture. The saints will have tribulation in this world.

John 16:33 King James Version (KJV) 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

And some saints will know GREAT tribulation -- Matthew 24:21ff. But, before He pores out his wrath, He returns for His own:

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Matthew 24:29-31)

See After the Tribulation.

These events are detailed and Bibically explained without the twisting of scripture which is most commonly done on this subject. Let's let the Bible speak simply and clearly on this subject. Revelation does just that: it reveals. (I do no agree with most IFB doctrines, but this video soundly lays out the doctrine.)

98 posted on 11/12/2019 7:25:50 AM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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To: nonsporting; Cronos

See Post #84


103 posted on 11/12/2019 7:27:51 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: nonsporting; Cronos

See Post #84


104 posted on 11/12/2019 7:27:51 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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