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And if married priesthood becomes an option, how many young men will choose it over celibacy? Many seminarians see celibacy not as an intrinsic value but simply part of the price of becoming a priest. Given the choice, they will choose marriage

The question is, will more heterosexual men consider it?

It's my view that the status quo practically DEMANDS a largely homosexual Latin Rite priesthood.

There are heterosexual men who are granted the gift of celibacy to devote 100% to others instead of a family. But there are certainly not enough of them to staff all the parishes in the world with even a single priest, never mind the numbers necessary to promote and sustain a healthy religious culture.

So, the device of accepting, tolerating, and now almost promoting a homosexual priesthood has been an alternative. Most would agree, I think, that this has been a failure.

4 posted on 10/17/2019 11:17:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Jim Noble

Remember it started with the permanent deacons.


5 posted on 10/17/2019 11:27:01 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Jim Noble

The thing is this — HISTORICALLY, Priests were NOT REQUIRED to be unmarried.

For example, the Apostle Peter, who the Catholic Church considers their first Pope, was a married man. St. Patrick was the grandson of a Priest.

It was not until ecumenical meetings of the Catholic Church at the First and Second Lateran councils in 1123 and 1139 that priests were explicitly forbidden from marrying.

Eliminating the prospect of marriage had the added benefit of ensuring that children or wives of priests did not make claims on property acquired throughout a priest’s life, which thus could be retained by the church. It took centuries for the practice of celibacy to become widespread, but it eventually became the norm in the Western Catholic church.

today, if you speak to a priest and ask him why celibacy is required, he will tell you that the Catholic church regards it as being easier for unattached men to commit to the church, as they have more time for devotion and fewer distractions.

However, it is NOT DOGMA or DOCTRINE.

So, I think, Celibacy is considered a “discipline” of the church, which can be changed, rather than a “dogma”, or a divinely revealed truth from God which cannot be altered.


8 posted on 10/17/2019 11:43:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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