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To: Luircin

So, DO you earn your salvation by your works, or are you trusting in the grace of God to save you?
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Another example of setting up a straw man since I have never said anything about earning salvation through works. That said, anyone who fails to do the will of the Father as is clearly revealed throughout the Scriptures will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Who says so? His Son says so and He is quoted by St. Matthew (matt 2:21). You want to refute what I’m saying? Take it up with Jesus!


664 posted on 09/15/2019 4:46:41 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Bad guys will enslave or exterminate good guys who acquiesce.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
"I have never said anything about earning salvation through works." A liar has the hardest time seeing his own lies. When you claimed that you were behaving a certain way to add to what Jesus accomplished (so you wouldnot lose what you have never had, apparently), you were confirming your prideful belief in your works to earn salvation.

IF there has never been a moment when you believe in Christ ALONE for His deliverance to you, then the righteousness of Christ has never been IMPUTED to your dead spirit. You cannot move the target by beign a good boy/girl to earn favor with GOD. Either you admit your are a destitute sinner and accept GOD's verdict so He can birth you anew from above, or you are lost with a dead spirit which you cannot make alive no matter how 'good' you presume yourself tyo be behaving.

To receive eternal LIFE (instead of retaining your eternal deadness) you must be born again so the Righteousness of Christ is accounted for you. You asked for 'the will of God' and you were quoted the very passage JESUS spoke defining the will of God. But then you spit upon that offering calling it a strawman. Examine yourself ...

666 posted on 09/15/2019 5:17:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat; Luircin
Another example of setting up a straw man since I have never said anything about earning salvation through works. That said, anyone who fails to do the will of the Father as is clearly revealed throughout the Scriptures will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

You just contradicted yourself.

What you describe here IS earning salvation by works, because if you don't do the works you don't get the salvation.

You just said so right here yourself.

693 posted on 09/15/2019 6:42:35 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Another example of setting up a straw man since I have never said anything about earning salvation through works.

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Yes you did, when you answered my question of “What works do you think you’re doing to earn salvation?” If you didn’t earn salvation by works then you’d have just said “None.” Instead you went on and on about what you think you did to earn salvation.

And then you suddenly changed the subject when I pointed out that all those works that you were boasting about are failing to live up to God’s standards, which I find rather amusing.

That and the RC catechism says that you have to earn salvation by works too. Oh, sorry, ‘merit’ salvation by works, so why shouldn’t I assume that you believe Catholic doctrine?


745 posted on 09/15/2019 11:59:12 PM PDT by Luircin
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