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To: ealgeone

One day you’ll see the truth. Hopefully it won’t be too late.


402 posted on 08/21/2019 6:34:12 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:24
404 posted on 08/21/2019 6:43:46 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide; boatbums
Among the prophecies of His coming is the name meaning God With Us. When a teenager asked how the God who created the Universe could be a man, just a man, the following was given for sharing with others on How God The Almighty could be born a human being ... this is the extremely short version:

Here is a sort of Physics lesson found in John 14, as Jesus responded to Philip's request to be shown The Father so he could believe Jesus was The Messiah:

In John's Gospel, chapter 14, Jesus tells His disciples that if they have seen Him they have seen The Father, for He is in the Father and the Father in Him. All they could see of The Father was Jesus, God with them.

If you were a being who was created with only length and width spatial variability, you could not perceive a sphere of length, width, and height, except where that sphere was in your length x width plane. If I want to show a sphere to these flatlanders (from the short novel, Flatland) I would have to pass the sphere through their plane, making a series of expanding circles then shrinking circles.

There are two axioms which can help with understanding, regarding anything of the Universe, the Universe, and anything in the Universe God has created/is creating:

axiom 1 = without time, events do not occur
axiom 2 = without space a thing does not exist

All things in the Universe God created have some variability of space and time, even a photon. A photon passes or 'events' inside the Universe never going out of the present of its creation, thus it arrives at your eye, for instance, and imparts data of the source at the moment the photon is created, even if it takes a billion years (perceived from our position in the temporal field) to reach your eye. The photon remains in the present of its creation. Photons are a mix of a pinch of space, a moment in time, and energy. Photons carry 'present moment data'.

God made Man to have a physical body, a behavior mechanism or soul, and a third aspect, the spirit, into which God put His Spirit life but which was forfeited in Adam; the human spirit remained but the life on a spirit level was removed, and that is what God puts back into the spirit of a believer in Jesus, a saved person.

The soul is real, it exists in time and space, but in a different coordinate system from the physical body, though it interfaces with same. In the same fashion, spirit is real, having some variability of time and space, though existing in a different coordinate system from the soul yet interfacing with same. When one is 'born from above' (John 3), God puts the earnest of a greater existence into the human spirit. (That is important to comprehend if we are to comprehend what will happen at the Rapture.)

One more clue: the being who wrote upon the wall in Palace Party central (Daniel 5) exists in a spacetime coordinate system un sensible to the partiers, so He reached 'down' into the Palace spacetime coordinate system and wrote on the wall, while the portion not the hand writing remained in a different spacetime coordinate system un sensed by the partiers.

Well, maybe one more: when Stephen was close to death, he looked and saw Jesus standing at the right hand of the throne of The Father; God allowed Stephen to have the ability to see more than the coordinate system in which he was about to die, physically. What Stephen saw was real, had real space and time variability, but was un sensible to those who would be throwing rocks.

Now ebb, is The Lord Christ in the Universe God created? God created the first, second, and third Heavens so where did Stephen see the Lord Christ just before he was stoned to death in Saul's presence? And, well you should get the gist by now.

408 posted on 08/21/2019 7:25:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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