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The Dormition of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God [2007]
Sword-In-Hat Blogspot ^ | 15 August 2007 | Rick Stuckwisch

Posted on 08/18/2019 7:05:12 PM PDT by Al Hitan

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To: imardmd1; MHGinTN
Hey, do you actually speak like you write???

I'm not smart enough to figure this out on my own...But your post left me with a couple of questions...

Realizing from God's Word that Jesus' body and blood must have been holy, sinless, and incorruptible, the material cannot any of it have come from a descendant of Adam, who was made of the first sinless batch (Genesis 1:26-27,31; 2:7), and the only one who had all the components from which Elohim made the first soul by breathing life into the DNA to make a him-with-a-Y-chromosome.

As we know the bible says that life is in the blood...I don't know if Adam was created with any blood (I assume not) in his system but it appears to me that after Adam 'ate of the fruit' his body became dependent on blood...Bad blood...

But if through the artifice dogma of her immaculate conception in her mother's womb (name of mother?) was so, would that not then commensurately imply that, having a sinless bodily constitution, thus incorruptible, and its function not interrupted by crass human stoppage of the flow of life-giving blood throughout it, could she therefore logically die? Answer: No.

Since life is in the blood it would seem as well that sickness, disease and death are also in the blood...

You mention that if Mary had a sinless bodily constitution (Catholic fantasy) that she couldn't die...I would assume that she couldn't age either...Yet, Jesus having a sinless bodily constitution did die...

Which brings me to the question, if Jesus aged and died, how is it that his body was holy and incorruptible and as God why would he even need blood??? And, if Jesus' body was holy how could he have had the human emotions such as temptation???

If Jesus wasn't fully human why did he even need a mother???

So far, I'm convinced from scripture that God put Jesus' body in Mary's womb and was pretty convinced Jesus had a body just like mine...

501 posted on 08/23/2019 5:03:06 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Elsie
You see the G12 movement there? I went to a G-12 conference in Manila in 2015. I didn’t know much about it then, but I don’t agree with much of it, so I never went back again. 😁
502 posted on 08/23/2019 5:24:27 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: Iscool
The Bible indicates that Jesus could not sin because His Seed, the Holy Spirit imparted seed remained within Him. At the Cross, God the Father, probably by Holy Spirit agency, removed that seed from Jesus's spirit so He could receive our due penalty for our sins. ('My God, My God, why forsaken me).

So we might ask 'When did the Holy Spirit impart the God seed to the soul of Jesus via His spirit? We cannot answer that. But we can ponder it! Since the behavior mechanism of the human is the soul, and since the soul is connected to the body via the brain (and that is not finished development until about age three), and since the spirit is connected to one via the soul connection, at what stage in development of the soul does the spirit be connected?

We may presume the spirit is with the soul at some time int he womb, but this does not require that Mary be sinless! Since the life is in the blood, and the Mary blood adds n chromosomes or DNA to the blood of the growing person in her womb, she is not imparting her life, her blood to Jesus. The Maridolatry is based upon nothing more than assertion by men who had no clue to the embryology of gestation!

503 posted on 08/23/2019 7:10:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mark17

I know NOTHING about it.


504 posted on 08/24/2019 12:46:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17

Now I do...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G12_Vision


505 posted on 08/24/2019 12:48:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool
You never even had a pope until after 600 AD...

Not unless you count St.Peter 32-67, St.Linus 67-76, St Cletus 76-88, St.Clement I 88-97, 56 more followed by John III 561-574, Benedict I 575-579, Pegalius II 579-590 and St. Gregory the great 590-604....total that far was 64.

506 posted on 08/24/2019 1:32:27 PM PDT by terycarl (Notre Dame was God's way of pointing out that France has fallen from His favor....)
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To: frnewsjunkie
Man cannot forgive sins.

Someone REAL important said "Whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven them and whose sins that you retain, they are retained"

507 posted on 08/24/2019 1:35:35 PM PDT by terycarl (Notre Dame was God's way of pointing out that France has fallen from His favor....)
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To: terycarl

grudges...yes

the ONLY way to God is thru Jesus.
some very important man said that


508 posted on 08/24/2019 2:17:25 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: terycarl

man is born unsaved.. man needs a Savior. the Savior is Jesus Christ. He came to give man the way to be changed.. old things become new..
Jesus is the only way .. the sacrifice.. ONLY .. our redemption comes from Jesus.. no man.


509 posted on 08/24/2019 2:23:15 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: frnewsjunkie
the ONLY way to God is thru Jesus.

Haven't you heard yet? Jesus is God.

510 posted on 08/24/2019 2:24:27 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: MHGinTN

Jesus very well could have sinned. Otherwise why the temptation in the desert at the start of His ministry? Scripture tells us Jesus was tempted in every way as we are but remained without sin, I assume because He is fully God as well as fully man. In fact He was tempted beyond any of us have experienced because once you give into sin the temptation stops. He never gave in and thus faced every temptation to the fullest on our behalf. What an amazing Savior we have.


511 posted on 08/24/2019 2:29:32 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: MHGinTN

pretty good writing.. you did a good job with something many just dont get..
when we try to figure it all with our earthly brain and thinking it seems to not be possible.
Faith...


512 posted on 08/24/2019 2:32:02 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Mom MD
Jesus very well could have sinned.

The above statement is heresy.

513 posted on 08/24/2019 2:33:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

He is both God and the Bridge between man and God. He is prophet priest and King. He has many names and serves many roles. Most importantly He is the Way the Truth and the Life. He is the only way to God and the only Name by which we can be saved! He is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is my Savior and my Brother. He is my All in All. Praise His Name Forever!


514 posted on 08/24/2019 2:35:03 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide

Jesus is the son of God.. Jesus has the attributes of his Father..
the Trinity.. means 3..
and the Holy Spirit makes 3


515 posted on 08/24/2019 2:35:17 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Mom MD

As a man He could be tempted, BUT because of HIS NATURE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS He could not violate His nature and sin.


516 posted on 08/24/2019 2:37:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: frnewsjunkie

Is Jesus Christ God?

Yes or No will suffice.


517 posted on 08/24/2019 2:38:47 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mom MD

if Jesus had sinned, he would not have been the perfect sacrifice and humanity would still be lost.

the reason he came and shed blood was to save man.. the lambs were not perfect. but the Lamb of God was.is. He had to be..and he fulfilled it.. “it is finished.”


518 posted on 08/24/2019 2:41:39 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: frnewsjunkie
man is born unsaved.. man needs a Savior. the Savior is Jesus Christ. He came to give man the way to be changed.. old things become new.. Jesus is the only way .. the sacrifice.. ONLY .. our redemption comes from Jesus.. no man.

I would never argue against that....but Christ did grant certain extraordinary powers to a very select group of His followers.

519 posted on 08/24/2019 2:42:30 PM PDT by terycarl (Notre Dame was God's way of pointing out that France has fallen from His favor....)
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To: ebb tide

it may suffice you..
not me.
i answered you.


520 posted on 08/24/2019 2:42:42 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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