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The Dormition of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God [2007]
Sword-In-Hat Blogspot ^ | 15 August 2007 | Rick Stuckwisch

Posted on 08/18/2019 7:05:12 PM PDT by Al Hitan

Today the Church remembers with thanksgiving the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God. Historically, this day was understood to mark her dormition, or "falling asleep," which was most anciently regarded as her natural death and burial. From early on, however, the Church considered that she who conceived and gave birth to the very God of very God, by His Word and Holy Spirit, was also resurrected and ascended into heaven, in both body and soul, soon after her death. There is no word of Holy Scripture to teach these traditions as doctrine, but we should not be too quick to dismiss them as merely pious devotion. Such piety, at its heart, is a confession of that which is the Church's faith in Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary's Son, our Savior and our God.

St. Mary is uniquely honored among all the saints of God in Christ, not only by the Church, but first of all by the Lord God Himself. He has had mercy upon her, blessed her with His grace and favor, and chosen her above all other women to bear the almighty and eternal Son of God. She is rightly called, and truly is, the Mother of God; for her own dear Son, the Fruit of her womb, is indeed the one true God, begotten of the Father from all eternity. It is from her flesh and blood that the Lord has taken for Himself a true and natural body, bone of her bone and flesh of her flesh, so that henceforth He is true Man, the perfect second Adam, our elder Brother, our kinsman Redeemer, the promised Seed of the Woman, by whom we are reconciled to God. As the ancient fathers of the Church confessed, God thus became like us, in order that we become like Him, by grace. It is that great salvation that we celebrate in commemorating any of the saints, and in particular the Blessed Virgin Mother of God, St. Mary.

She is an icon of the Church, a living Sacrament of Christ, and a beautiful example of faith, of all the true children of father Abraham. Her body was comprehended by the Word and Spirit of God to become the tangible means by which the Son of God became flesh and was given to us, and not only for us, but for the life of the world. It is His body, conceived and born of St. Mary, that our sins and sorrows did carry. It is a human body, like our own in every way, save without sin, because He was born of this woman (born under the Law to redeem us). Thus do we recognize in her an archetype of the Blessed Sacrament of our Lord's body and blood.

What is more, in conceiving and giving birth to the Son of God, she is a type of the Church, the holy mother who surely gives birth to the sons of God in Christ. We too have been conceived and given new birth by the same Word and Spirit of the same Holy Triune God that overshadowed the Blessed Virgin Mary and knit within her womb the incarnation of the only-begotten Son. Thus are we, like Him, "born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God" (St. John 1:13).

Along with her vocation as the woman by whom the Son of God was given to and for the world, St. Mary also stands with us as a living member of the Church, the Body of Christ. When the Word of the Gospel was announced to her, she received that Word in faith, obtained in her by the mercies of God, and meekly bowed her head in humble trust: "Let it be to me according to Thy Word." Blessed is she who has heard the Word of God and kept it, who treasured it in her heart, who believed that there would surely be a fulfillment of all that God had spoken to her. In all of this, St. Mary is one of us, a faithful disciple of her own dear Son, and among that great cloud of witnesses with which we are surrounded, of that blest communion, fellowship divine.

When the Church in pious tradition has considered St. Mary to be resurrected and ascended to heaven, already in both body and soul, it is a confession of faith in that which Christ Jesus our Lord has accomplished for us and for all by His victorious Cross, Resurrection and Ascension. We may indeed contemplate that she by whom the Lord became like us, should exemplify the way in which we all become like Him, recreated in the glorious Image of the Man from heaven. Of course, we do not rest faith upon the tradition of St. Mary's dormition and assumption into heaven; faith clings to Jesus Christ alone and finds true peace and Sabbath rest forever in Him. But what we envision concering St. Mary, we understand to be the Church's hope precisely in Christ our Lord, our Savior and our God. For we know that He is the Resurrection and the Life, and that she who believes in Him will live even if she dies; yes, and everyone who lives and believes in Him will never die.

We believe, teach and confess with the absolute certainty of faith that St. Mary is the Mother of God; that the almighty and eternal Son of the living God was born of this woman, born under the Law, to redeem us who were under the Law. In celebrating that marvelous incarnation of God the Son, in which He died and rose again for us men and our salvation, we may also celebrate proleptically the resurrection of the body that all His saints share with Him by grace through faith in the Gospel. And in that glorious light, we sing: "O higher than the cherubim, more glorious than the seraphim, lead their praises: 'Alleluia!' Thou bearer of the eternal Word, most gracious magnify the Lord: 'Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!"


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: dormition; lams; lcms; lutheran; mary; protestant
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To: Iscool

WOW! So I guess Paul is some kind of “flakey” conspiracy APOSTLE to the RCC. Sadly, the very place they SHOULD study, rightly divided, is the very place that appears to be back burner issues to them.


461 posted on 08/22/2019 6:02:28 AM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. I'm. AN ANTI DEMITE)
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To: Al Hitan
Actually, yes. From the 3rd ecumenical council in 431: There are others, but I think that's enough to make the point.

At that time there was no unified Catholic religion...That why they had councils...Different areas were being taught different doctrines by the bishops in charge of those areas...And often the decisions were for political purposes...

462 posted on 08/22/2019 6:03:47 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Elsie
Why is NO ONE castigated for having the ASSURANCE that the Brown Scapular seemingly provides?

I don’t know bro. I used to wear one, but since I left the Catholic Church, I know the scapular won’t protect anyone from anything. BTW, Mary and Joseph did the “evil deed,” they had sex and other children. 👍 One of whom, was the leader on the Jerusalem church. 😁😆😂

463 posted on 08/22/2019 6:26:32 AM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: Iscool

That is why I call it the ‘magicsteeringthem’. The hocus pocus is strong with that religion called Catholicism.


464 posted on 08/22/2019 6:31:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom

“I’d think anyone interested in the Truth would...

And here you’ve kicked over the facade of religiousness and found the real issue underneath.


465 posted on 08/22/2019 6:35:37 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Al Hitan
In a word, No – the divine name, YHWH, does not appear in any NT text, nor does any NT writer allude to it.

Really??? LORD in the OT is a reference to the God of Creation which involves the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the Trinity...

LORD
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.

The equivalent in the NT is:

godhead
theiotēs
thi-ot'-ace
From G2304; divinity (abstractly): - godhead.
Acts 17:29

Of the many OT quotations in the NT that include the divine name in the original Hebrew texts (e.g. Mt.3:3; 22:37; Mk.12:29; Lk.4:18), none carry 'YHWH' forward into Greek. All use the generic kyrios, or 'Lord'

There's a reason for that apparently unknown by whoever this writer is...

LORD in the OT is a reference to the Trinity while Lord in Matt. 3:3 and many other places (depending on context) is a reference to a part of the Trinity, Jesus...And NOT in the context of being the Trinity but the context of being the Christ/Messiah, one of the parts of the Trinity...

So No, Lord (Kurios in the NT) is not the same LORD as in the O.T.

466 posted on 08/22/2019 7:00:14 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: smvoice
WOW! So I guess Paul is some kind of “flakey” conspiracy APOSTLE to the RCC. Sadly, the very place they SHOULD study, rightly divided, is the very place that appears to be back burner issues to them.

Exactly...the 'church' epistles of Paul TO THE CHURCH destroys any legitimacy of the Catholic religion of being in any way connected to the church of the scriptures...

467 posted on 08/22/2019 7:02:39 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Elsie

BOOM! Drop the mic!


468 posted on 08/22/2019 7:29:05 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Iscool; ealgeone; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; boatbums; imardmd1; Elsie

As explained in the Fundamentals of The Faith, the gospel according to the religion of Catholicism is infused righteousness via works, fealty to sacraments, repetition of attendance at Mass. The Gospel according to the Word of God is an imputation of righteousness, the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us when we are born again from above.


469 posted on 08/22/2019 8:20:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Welcome to the Popetale Catholicfornia.
You can check out anytime you like
But you can NEVER leave.


470 posted on 08/22/2019 8:48:08 AM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. I'm. AN ANTI DEMITE)
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To: frnewsjunkie
You can’t fool everyone all the time.... catholics believe they have it... from what I’ve seen posted, where does your “truth” come from... not all from the bible.. which makes it suspect at best. I don’t want to argue with a catholic.. they have ONE opinion... THEIRS! No time for it... when it’s just wasted time. I’m as sure as they are sure... so don’t bother.

Well, most of their beliefs do, indeed, come from the Bible, and they held them for 1,600 years before Prots were even thought of....

471 posted on 08/22/2019 9:13:10 AM PDT by terycarl (Notre Dame was God's way of pointing out that France has fallen from His favor....)
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To: terycarl
Well, most of their beliefs do, indeed, come from the Bible, and they held them for 1,600 years before Prots were even thought of....

You never even had a pope until after 600 AD...

Constantine combined a break-away religious sect with his politics and massive army and ruled with terror...Everyone in the military was ultimately forced to become Roman Catholic...

That was the beginning of the period known as the Dark Ages...Where Christians were murdered, bibles destroyed if they refused Catholicism...

They convinced you that you can't become a Christian without the Catholic religion...

Try it...Get away from all those pedophiles and queers like so many other former Catholic have done...They are not sorry...You won't be either...

472 posted on 08/22/2019 9:44:07 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: terycarl

what I’ve seen on here, you can say they come from the biblle with paraphrasing going on.
Man cannot forgive sins.

I go back to when the Kennedy family was in politics..
John, Ted, Robert and others... they could divorce, and all kinds of living.. and not be excommunicated.... a priest would wink and nod in their direction. As long as a priest gave it a pass,.... but did God?

I knew a lady years ago and her priest visited her often in her home...she was a young lady and pretty. . he was there at least once a week...

Just a wink and a nod by a priest says it’s ok?

It’s one way of a life, I guess....


473 posted on 08/22/2019 10:05:47 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: terycarl

Anything I might say just stirs up others. I don’t tell you how to live, but these catholics do....I am 100% against the catholic religion/church.. and best to leave me out of any discussion.


474 posted on 08/22/2019 10:09:02 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: terycarl

So you would eat a bowl of sweet oatmeal if it only had a teaspoon of strychnine in it?


475 posted on 08/22/2019 10:24:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: terycarl

Here’s a video just for you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt0WA6qkbQE


476 posted on 08/22/2019 11:29:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Excellent description of the scapular.


477 posted on 08/22/2019 11:35:37 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie; Al Hitan
Who provides the 'validation'?

"Lord” was widely recognised to be a valid substitute for the divine name prior to NT times.

Can you picture this exchange:

    Then Moses asked God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is His name?’ What should I tell them?

    God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you....but y'all can just call me "Lord", I'm okay with that, too.

Somehow, I don't think that would be how the I AM THAT I AM (YHVH) would have said it.

478 posted on 08/22/2019 1:44:00 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: Mom MD

AMEN!

Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine!
Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine!
Heir of salvation, purchase of God,
Born of His Spirit, washed in His blood.

Refrain:
This is my story, this is my song,
Praising my Savior all the day long;
This is my story, this is my song,
Praising my Savior all the day long.

Perfect submission, perfect delight,
Visions of rapture now burst on my sight;
Angels, descending, bring from above
Echoes of mercy, whispers of love.

Perfect submission, all is at rest,
I in my Savior am happy and blest,
Watching and waiting, looking above,
Filled with His goodness, lost in His love.


479 posted on 08/22/2019 1:59:17 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: MHGinTN
As explained in the Fundamentals of The Faith, the gospel according to the religion of Catholicism is infused righteousness via works, fealty to sacraments, repetition of attendance at Mass. The Gospel according to the Word of God is an imputation of righteousness, the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us when we are born again from above.

And that IS found in the Bible:

    And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. (Romans 4:21-25)

Couldn't find "infused" anywhere, though.

480 posted on 08/22/2019 2:19:06 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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