The Dormition of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God [2007]

Sword-In-Hat Blogspot ^ | 15 August 2007 | Rick Stuckwisch

[Elsie]

The Holy Spirit had to add DNA to Jesus body for the incarnation or He would have been a girl.

I'd be more careful in stating what God had to do in this case.

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(I can't figure out just WHERE the HS would even GET any male DNA from.)

[Elsie]

I tried that surrogate angle a week or so ago in another thread.

No one wanted to handle it then.

[Elsie]

Once again we see how easily anti-Catholics fall into error or heresy in their desperate bid to attack the Catholic faith.

Once again we see how Catholics have fallen into error or heresy in their desperate bid to state that ONLY the Catholic church has the correct take on this.

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Why doesn't the Holy Spirit 'overshadow' the priest as he prepares the 'blood' and the 'body' of Jesus for consumption?

[Mom MD]

He’s the one that created DNA so i guess He knows where to find some. 😃 The point is all of Christ’s DNA could not come from Mary as a female has no Y chromosome to contribute. Beyond that I think speculation on the exact genetic make up of Christ’s human body is pointless and not only not relevant but not appropriate.

[Elsie]

Yet Jesus never said it was just you and Him.

Yet Jesus DID say to, "Call no man father."

[kosciusko51]

Sorry, I missed that one. The lack of response is not suprising.

[Elsie]

Quote them often since they are irrefutably true.

Call no man father.

[Elsie]

Anti-Catholics claim to love the Bible but they deny it every time it disagrees with their “personal” beliefs. Catholics claim to love the Bible but they deny it every time it is quoted thus:

Call no man father.

[Elsie]

Jesus is. direct descendant of David maybe implying there is some genetic component.

And RAHAB is in the lineage; too.

So what does THAT indicate??

[Elsie]

I can’t wait to get started!!!

You; as well of the rest of us; have already started; but just through a glass darkly.

[Elsie]

The finite can not contain the infinite.

I've not seen the data on this.

[Elsie]

Going down this path may lead some to wonder about Christ's human DNA.

Given He was a normal human male; what about His sperm?

Did He have nocturnal emissions?

Given all the hoopla over the 'shroud' lately, one wonders...

[MHGinTN]

There is a significant point here; the Catholic dogma seeks to make Mary a Queen of Heaven and attributing the chromosome origins for the body of Jesus to Mary is one huge step in that agenda. To refute the 'queen of heaven' lie one must stunt the dogma attributing Jesus's biological and spiritual self to Mary.

A human descended from Adam has a body, a soul, and a spirit. The body is not the soul and the soul is not the spirit, the spirit is not the soul and the soul is not the body. We know from Scripture that the Spirit in the man Jesus is God with us. we do not know when that Spirit connected to the physical body of Jesus but the Catholic dogma presumes it is at the conception in/connecting to Mary's body. That is a presumption yet an entire mythos of 'queen of Heaven' is built upon a presumption not supported by The Word of God.

The issue is so vital to Catholic dogma that the supporters when confronted with the specious nature of their assertions resort to insults, haughty mocking, and their usual spittlegeist.

[MHGinTN]

Non sequitur ... Rahab lived long before David, and Messiah is identified as ascending David's throne, a son of David, Son of Man.

Since God can go anywhere in time and space, there are two sources for the zygotic Jesus that come to mind: Adam and Eve, and David and Bathsheba. This side of the veil, we will not have a definitive answer.

[smvoice]

1. If Mary was created without original sin that was passed onto the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, then where did she get her DNA to pass on to Jesus??

2. If she did somehow pass this DNA on to Jesus, that would make Mary ALSO present in the Eucharist. That would make her a part of the GODHEAD. Helloooooooo.

Is this where the RCC is going with this blasphemy???!!

The RCC cannot have

[2nd amendment mama]

place

[boatbums]

Vlad you need a refresher on FR posting guidelines:

Forms of "making it personal" include mind reading, attributing motive, accusing another Freeper of telling a lie (because it attributes motive, the intent to deceive) - making the thread "about" individual Freeper(s), following a Freeper from thread to thread and badgering a Freeper over-and-again with the same question.

The words "prevarication" "dishonesty" "slander" "deceit" "calumny" and "subterfuge" are synonymous with "lie" because they entail intent.

Words such as "false" "error" "wrong" "inaccurate" "misstatement" do not attribute motive and are not "making it personal."

Other words push the envelope of motive but are not synonymous with "lie" for purposes of modding the RF. However, they can be "making it personal" if applied to another Freeper, personally, in such a way the discussion becomes "about" the individual Freeper instead of the issues. Those words include "misrepresentation" "detraction" "disinformation" "distortion" "hyperbole" and "doublespeak."

Another example, calling a group of Freepers "anti-Mormon" attributes motive to them as a group which is not technically "making it personal" - but saying that another Freeper, personally, is anti-Mormon [or anti-Catholic] instead of anti-MormonISM is an ad hominem. It is "making it personal."

Can't you argue for your beliefs without calling others anti-Catholic and accusing them of lying?

[boatbums]

Doesn’t the loving and caring exposition of Catholic doctrine just make you want SO badly to become a Catholic, too??? /sarc

[MHGinTN]

POaul spoke of Catholicism ... he called it an ‘other religion’.

[MHGinTN]

They are already there ... have you seen Elsie’s list of titles the Catholics attribute to blessed MAry the Mother of Jesus?