Posted on 07/08/2019 3:11:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
Like many Ordinariate clergy, he was quickly re-trained and received Catholic Holy Orders. His kids are, I think, grown now, but he is still married and still the support of his wife, Norma. I think they're presently living with one of their adult sons.
When I said “his” GoFundMe, I meant of course Fr. Treco’s.
Go easy on Lopes, folks. At worst, he's a sock puppet. The Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter in the US is a small, fragile organization, probably kept afloat by AmChurch dollars. I'm thinking this excommunication order came from the AmChurch hierarchy who made Lopes an offer he couldn't refuse.
"Nice little Ordinariate you got here. Be a shame if anything was to...uh...'happen' to it."
I don't think so; but he is weak. He knew about the homo McCarrick but never spoke up until Archbishop Vigano turned over Bergoglio's apple cart:
Bishop Lopes can break bread with pro abortion Catholic politicians and tolerate predatory homosexual criminal priests, yet ex communicate an ardent priest who dares to speak truth to power. Something has gone very wrong within the Catholic Church.
More information to be had, certainly. Forthcoming, doubtful. I surmise, and only SURMISE, that the parish was closed due to the parishioners questioning in the same manner as the priest. Cant have that, now, can we?
To paraphrase:
In May, Fr. Treco presented an appeal to the CDF via his canonical advocate. This suspends the effects of the declared penalty.I'm no canon layer, but I must say I appreciate that the Catholic Church back in the 17th century --- way in advance of any secular courts --- developed the principle of procedural due process.CIC/83, canon 1353 provides that, “An appeal or a recourse against judgements of a court or against decrees which impose or declare any penalty, has a suspensive effect.”
This suspension of penalty lasts until the case is definitively resolved by the CDF. Thus, Father may return to the sacraments with confidence and without further delay.
So, yay for law. Now for justice.
Rape a child and...... Never mind. Say that the antipope Francis and his perverted, flying monkey priests are full of shit and get excommunicated.
There needs to be another reformation of the church to wrest control from the Marxists.
“oliticians and tolerate predatory homosexual criminal priests, yet ex communicate an ardent priest who dares to speak truth to power. Something has gone very wrong within the Catholic Church.”
It had to be said again.
Vaughn Treco was my pastor for about 3 months. He was assigned in the interim between the dismissal of a proud, in-your-face homosexual drunk who had been assigned our pastor and the locating of a permanent replacement.
I attend a potentially moribund parish in a city that has hemorrhaged Catholics to suburbia and/or oblivion.
Our current pastor is as good as any and a great deal better than most.
Vaughn Treco is a converted Anglican with a wife and kids. When I was listening to his sermons I thought we could do infinitely worse than to have him permanently assigned. He is that easy to like.
Alas, it wasn't to be.
The leadership of the Catholic Church seems intent on seeing the Church collapse. My guess is I'm old enough that I will likely be dead before they finally succeed. That may be a good thing.
Good news but some forewarning:
Bergolio’s current prefect of the CDF is His Emminence Cardinal Pietro Parolin, friend of ChiComms, foe to Catholics, far and wide.
There is no freedom of speech in the Catholic Church.
Sex-abuse victims want Cardinal Luis Ladaria stripped of his immunity
Vatican insists on Cardinal Ladaria's immunity in Barbarin affair
Vatican Refused to Hand Over Cardinal Implicated in Sex Abuse Cover-Up
And what about his parish they closed down ? Will that remain open ? You or your canonical lawyer may not know, but this seems pretty over the top for a lowly bishop to exact on one priest and his parish.
Popes are only human and therefore capable of error and arrogant pride.
And for no SPECIFIC stated reason. Schism? Really? By what act or what statement, specifically? And when Fr. Treco in plain, manly language professes his vowed obedience to all his ecclesiastical superiors and to every tenet of Catholic Faith.
What my canon-wise friend tells me, is that Fr. Treco ought to be immediately able to receive the Sacraments of Reconciliation and Holy Communion until his case is adjudicated by the CDF. The excommunication --- being cut off from the Sacraments --- is suspended.
What this suspension of penalties does NOT do (as I understand it) is reverse his laicization, or restore his suppressed parish.
To repeat, he cannot, as a baptized Catholic, lawfully be denied the Sacraments of Reconciliation and Holy Communion while his excommunication is being appealed.
He CAN be denied the active practice of the priesthood, and his parish can stay suppressed. That's on the immediate authority of the Ordinary, Lopes.
This whole thing is as merciless as it can get. And the responsibility for it, ultimately, lies with that great proponent of accompaniment and sensitive dialogue, His Merciful Humbleness the Pope.
Father Treco wasn’t a predator of young male boys so obviously he had to go!/s
He spoke the unspeakable truth: Vatican II was a disaster, and the so-called "spirit of Vatican II", in the name of which many abuses were and are committed, is demonic.
The bishop smirks like James Comey or Christine Blasey Ford.
My question in post #3 demands a definitive answer.
I’d bet on it.
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