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To: Luircin
I just noticed that somehow I left off the end of my post:

And besides, the article referenced was written in 2011 (while they were still in communion) and states: "With God’s help, we were able to demonstrate that the teaching on personal salvation held by the entire Orthodox Church..."

710 posted on 06/19/2019 2:11:40 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

Very nice; you did research.

Now that we’ve done so, here’s the issue; Orthodox teaches that salvation is a gift from God. Sure, we disagree on eternal security, but I wasn’t talking about eternal security anyways.

Orthodox places emphasis on theosis while both Rome and Protestants talk about forensic justification. Theosis puts emphasis on the effect of a regenerated life in Christ while forensic justification emphasizes the cause.

But EO will still make it clear that works do not earn salvation.

Catholicism changes the definition of ‘gift’ halfway through, from something given without merit into something you have to merit yourself.

And that’s the issue. If Catholicism teaches you have to do good deeds in order to merit eternal life, that’s just salvation by works prettied up in a new title. And on this thread itself you have Catholics insisting you’re saved by works.

But if works DON’T earn eternal life, then why are y’all so angry about sola fide?


711 posted on 06/19/2019 2:50:03 PM PDT by Luircin
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