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To: metmom
Being in or not in *full communion* with the ELCA affects neither my salvation nor my ability to worship with them or consider them my brothers and sisters in Christ.

You may believe that, but if you aren't in communion with the ECLA the following does not apply to you:

    common confessing of the Christian faith

    mutual recognition of Baptism and a sharing of the Lord's Supper, allowing for joint worship and an exchangeability of members

    mutual recognition and availability of ordained ministers to the service of all, subject to the disciplinary regulations of other denominations

    common commitment to evangelism, witness and service

    means of common decision-making on critical common issues of faith and life

    mutual lifting of any condemnations that exist between denominations


372 posted on 06/17/2019 4:57:57 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan; metmom

Jesus said come to ME ALL YE that are weary are heavy Laden and I will give you rest. NO EXCEPTIONS.

Jesus did not say come to my mother in the flesh and she may give you access to my rest. There you have it from the mouth of God himself.

Mary is no intermediary for your deliverance or anybody else’s. Jesus said YOU come to ME.

You either believe the man who is God or you believe any false religion that has a different view than the stated view of the Almighty himself.

Jesus is right and ALL of us are wrong compared to him. Even HIS mother... You do WHAT HE says.

Jesus alone is the Savior. Mary would be the 1st person to tell you that.

Mary would also tell you that she couldn’t even save a bag of paper plates. NOT HER JOB! And they did not exist at the time.

Attributing to Mary the nature and character of Almighty God himself borders on blasphemy.

I’ve said prayer sincerely to Mary with all my heart and got nothing. I say prayers to Jesus and I get action now.

Only Jesus. Period.


376 posted on 06/17/2019 5:16:05 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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To: Al Hitan

You speak for non-Catholics now? Based on what?

Catholics are the most divisive group of Christianity going.

They will do and say anything to drive a wedge between other believers.


420 posted on 06/17/2019 7:09:27 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Al Hitan; Luircin; Mom MD
You may believe that, but if you aren't in communion with the ECLA the following does not apply to you:

You know something?

I. DON'T. CARE.

I consider MomMD and Luircin to be a sister and brother in Christ, saved by the grace of God.

I can worship with them, pray with them, fellowship with them, and serve and minister with them.

And I expect to see them in heaven some day.

426 posted on 06/17/2019 7:12:18 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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