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Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.
The Most Ancient Tradition | 06-16-2019 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.

Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?

No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.

Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.

Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17

She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.

We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".

Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism
KEYWORDS: jesus; mary
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To: MayflowerMadam

Yup.


121 posted on 06/16/2019 6:10:09 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: nobamanomore
and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Finally, someone who knows the list of traditions Paul was referring to!

Would you please post this list of traditions so we can all see them?

Thanks in advance!

122 posted on 06/16/2019 6:13:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: nobamanomore
It’s just a verse to be ignored, like “this is my body”

Or "call no man father."

123 posted on 06/16/2019 6:13:41 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: CharlesOConnell

Bottom line people. If it is NOT spelled out in the Bible, it is not from God. Catholic tradition is NOT the same as revealed scripture, it is heresy.

Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one gets to the Father except through Me.”
That said, Prayers to Mary and all the saints are fruitless. There are NO examples of people praying to the saints in the Bible. Zip. Nada. None.


124 posted on 06/16/2019 6:15:12 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

They can be found in the catechism of the Catholic Church. Google it. You’re welcome


125 posted on 06/16/2019 6:19:30 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Did his followers leave over “call no man father”. Don’t think so.


126 posted on 06/16/2019 6:21:51 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: nobamanomore
Did his followers leave over “call no man father”. Don’t think so.

Did Christ say, "Call no man father?"

127 posted on 06/16/2019 6:24:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: nobamanomore
They can be found in the catechism of the Catholic Church. Google it. You’re welcome

Please copy and paste them here, along with any evidence that Paul was referring to them.

128 posted on 06/16/2019 6:25:28 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You didn’t answer my question. Read John 6 and compare the two.


129 posted on 06/16/2019 6:32:58 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: nobamanomore
You didn’t answer my question. Read John 6 and compare the two.

You quoted "this is my body." That occurred at the Last Supper. No one left other than Judas...

Nor does your question prove that Christ didn't say what Scripture records.

So it was kind of a silly question.

In John 6, JEWS, who were forbidden from eating blood, left. They misunderstood Christ.

131 posted on 06/16/2019 6:51:27 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: nobamanomore
Copy and paste the evidence that they aren’t!

No. You quoted a verse as evidence that Christians today should follow traditions Paul referred to.

Yet you don't know what they were and cannot prove a link to them...

Nothing to be ashamed of.

No Catholic has been able to do it, since no such list of traditions exists.

132 posted on 06/16/2019 6:52:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mom MD

Party Pooper!


133 posted on 06/16/2019 7:06:01 PM PDT by northislander
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To: Mom MD
Blasphemy and apostasy.

That's sort of what I was thinking. Catholicism is the perfect application of syncretism between worship of the One True God, and paganism. There's enough in the Scriptures to point out the problem with this without me pointing out specifics here. Praying to the dead... the worship of the "mother" of God... the parallels to Roman paganism are striking. Anyway, yeah... blasphemy and apostasy... yup... and lots of it too.
134 posted on 06/16/2019 7:22:17 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: MayflowerMadam
What about Jesus’ half siblings? Did Mary visit the Nazareth Fertility Clinic for artificial insemination?

LOL. I think not, and if she didn’t go to the Nazareth/Bethlehem fertility clinics, do you suppose I would be correct in assuming that Mary had her other children, the old fashioned way, by doing the dastardly deed, sexual relations?
Oh, the horror of it all. Mary and Joseph actually had sex. What a novel concept. By the way, I remember reading about the queen of heaven thing, in Jeremiah.

135 posted on 06/16/2019 7:28:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Mom MD
There is one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus Christ.

So Jesus Christ is not God, Himself? He's just a mediator?

Interesting.

136 posted on 06/16/2019 7:32:41 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mark17
Oh, the horror of it all. Mary and Joseph actually had sex.

And liked it.

137 posted on 06/16/2019 7:34:24 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: daniel1212
You mean once you became "accepted in the Beloved" on His account, then your eyes were opened to the nature of such a Catholic tradition by decree.

Affirmative sir. The YOPIOS I have now, is different from the YOPIOS I had then. 😁👍

138 posted on 06/16/2019 7:36:33 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Mom MD
Today the Catholic Church celebrated the Feast of the Holy Trinity.

Here's the preface of that Mass:


It is truly meet and just, right and availing unto salvation that we should at all time and in all places give thanks unto Thee, O holy Lord, Father almighty and everlasting God. Who with Thine only-begotten Son and the Holy Ghost art one God, one Lord; not in the oneness of a single person, but in the Trinity of one substance. For that which we believe from Thy revelation concerning Thy glory, that same we believe also of Thy Son, and of the Holy Ghost, without difference or separation. So that in confessing the true and everlasting Godhead, we shall adore distinction in persons, oneness in being, and equality in majesty. Which the angels and archangels, the cherubim also and the seraphim do praise nor cease to cry out as with one voice saying:

Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God of hosts.
Heaven and earth are full of thy glory.
Hosanna in the highest.
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.
Hosanna in the highest.

P.S. This is the same preface prayed all Sundays at tradition Latin masses, except during pachaltide and on feast days with their own preface.

You may think Jesus Christ is just a mediator between God and man, but Catholics know better.

139 posted on 06/16/2019 7:52:20 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mark17

140 posted on 06/16/2019 7:58:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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