Posted on 03/30/2019 7:44:08 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
“Unshocking pick,” declared Catholic commentator and author Patrick Coffin. “According to the late Dr. Richard Sipe (who rejected Catholic teaching on homosexuality, mind) the proposed Wuerl replacement is strongly presumed to be homosexual. Who am I to judge?”
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/archbishop-wilton-gregory-asked-to-lead-washington-archdiocese-41260
And they wonder why church attendance in on a decline.
Genesis 19: The story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10, Romans 1:26-27…Those are out of his manual of standards, and he should know them or not apply for the job.
rwood
“The Holy See”
Just WTH does that mean?
Sad.
Thank God for the Reformation
“See” is an English form of the Latin word “Sede” meaning chair, which has Biblical roots (Matthew 23:1-5 follows):
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5 “Everything they do is done for people to see
Sometimes it is hard to see the connection between the Catholic Church and the life of the chosen people before Christ, but I think at least in this area, Pope Francis has made it easier to see, and so easier to see how Christ’s words can be lived out in our day in the way that people would have lived them out in His. Living them out under Pope Benedict didn’t have quite the same feel. And so, thank you for your question—in answering it, I’ve found something else to be grateful for today.
Thank God for the Reformation
How does the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Lutheran Bishop of Dresden (who as near as I can tell is the Lutheran in charge of overseeing the teaching of whatever Lutheran’s teach in Wittenberg) stack up against Gregory?
When I was a younger person I read in the Bible that God forbids Heavenly images and that we should call no man FATHER except one, our heavenly father God.. I became convicted and left the church as well as did many, many others to the point the Catholic Church noticed a huge financial loss in contributions. That is when they all of a sudden took down all the statues.
Maybe when the people of today read in the Bible that God hates Homosexuality there will be another great exodus of members that leave it, This time maybe it will be the death blow that finally kills this sinful tool of Satan.
The Reformation began the process of giving Christians the freedom to choose their ecclesial communities, rather than everybody having to follow the bishop of Rome no questions asked. It means I can worship Christ without having to follow church leaders who teach liberal heresy. I can go to a bible believing church if I choose. The point is choice and competition. Just as with the government schools system, forcing everybody into a single bureaucratic structure is a formula for corruption and abuse
I agree. Catholicism and Islam are Satans greatest works of deception, because he has deceived billions of people this way.
Black, on the Down Low, Dumb, Protege of a Known Satanist and an Arch-heretic. Perfect!
As an economist, (my first degree) I appreciate your point.
As a theologian (my third degree) and philosopher (my second degree), who believes that God orders things, both temporal and spiritual, visibly through imperfect leaders (the last perfect visible leader having Ascended some time ago, though we anxiously wait his visible return given the schmucks that we have had to put up with in the mean time), I have to ask: who does God want leading me, not who would I like leading me, and I am I following that person or those people.
To Conscience first, and the Pope afterwards (my tagline is from Bl. John Henry Newman—soon to be Saint).
When I was a younger person I read in the Bible that God forbids Heavenly images ..... That is when they all of a sudden took down all the statues.
The statues are still up in many places—the Church is a big place and many people do stupid things for all sorts of reasons. There are many reasons why people took off—not because of what you did, and most of them weren’t for the same reason.
Did you get made Pope and authoritatively interpret the Bible, influencing loads of people? While you were doing that, did you notice the parts where God commands the making of images?
Forget the ‘See’ usage. It’s the latching onto the word ‘Holy’ that should be viewed with possible disdain. The mowhawmuhdunz attach ‘holy’ to all things mowhawmuhd, the false prophet.
Jesus is the Christ, the only begotten Son of the living God. That is the foundation of Christianity. If it ain’t tied to him, it ain’t holy.
Worshiping Christ but choosing not to take ones lead from the pope was the very definition of Protestantism in the 16th century. Curious that there are people today who elect not to follow the current pope but call themselves Catholics
Also, in our fallen world, monopolies are seedbeds for corruption - in any sphere of human life. Think how much more horrendous the child abuse scandal would be if the Church of Rome had no marketplace competition exposing it it outside accountability
God seems to have ordered human nature so that , at least in our fallen state , we need competition and choice in all areas of areas of life, spiritual as well, to keep organizations and enterprises (spiritual ones too) honest, and oriented toward serving Gods people instead of their own bureaucracies
The Pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth, just as the leaders of the Jews in Christ’s day sat on the seat of Moses—when the respective parties act like Vicars of Christ, or like someone on the seat of Moses, follow them.
When they don’t, well, go Biblical and call them white washed tombs or whatever if you feel like them, don’t follow in so far as they aren’t acting in the way they were deputed to act.
When Francis acts as Vicar, I follow, when he doesn’t, I will, please God, go Jerome on him as appropriate. The problem is that going Jerome in an improper way is really, really tempting, and in order to figure out what the heck Francis is doing sometimes takes more degrees in theology than I have.
So when I don’t know what he’s doing, I’ll sit still.
Not that complex in theory, very complex in fact.
My sympathies to young Luther.
Also, in our fallen world, monopolies are seedbeds for corruption
Sounds like a good argument for many religions. I point out again my opening line on post 8.
As Christ said “Father, I pray that my followers may be splintered, even as you and I are splintered.” I might have the wording a little off—maybe you could look it up.
BTW, Jerome is English for Hieronymus
Sounds like a good argument for many religions
No, it’s a good argument for freedom of choice within Christianity
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