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To: metmom; NorthMountain
It doesn’t advocate for anonymous confession in a booth with a priest. There is no precedent for it as Catholicism practices it and it’s just part of the Roman Hamster Wheel of Guilt and a way to control the masses and learn about their private lives. And they dangle your eternal soul over the fires of hell for not doing it their way. That’s wrong.

I doubt most Catholics even know the actual history of it.

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church admits that private confession first came on the scene in the seventh century:

      “Over the centuries the concrete form in which the Church has exercised this power received from the Lord has varied considerably. During the first centuries the reconciliation of Christians who had committed particularly grave sins after their Baptism (for example, idolatry, murder, or adultery) was tied to a very rigorous discipline, according to which penitents had to do public penance for their sins, often for years, before receiving reconciliation. To this ‘order of penitents’ (which concerned only certain grave sins), one was only rarely admitted and in certain regions only once in a lifetime. During the seventh century Irish missionaries, inspired by the Eastern monastic tradition, took to continental Europe the ‘private’ practice of penance, which does not require public and prolonged completion of penitential works before reconciliation with the Church. From that time on, the sacrament has been performed in secret between penitent and priest. This new practice envisioned the possibility of repetition and so opened the way to a regular frequenting of this sacrament. It allowed the forgiveness of grave sins and venial sins to be integrated into one sacramental celebration. In its main lines this is the form of penance that the Church has practiced down to our day” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 1447).

    So, private confession was introduced a full seven centuries after Christ and His apostles. Ironically the Roman Church curses us if we dare assert the plain historical fact that secret confession to a priest was not observed from the beginning:

      “If anyone denies that the sacramental confession was instituted, and is necessary for salvation, by divine Law; or says that the manner of confessing secretly to a priest alone, which the Catholic Church has always observed from the beginning and still observes, is at variance with the institution and command of Christ and is a human invention, anathema sit” (Council of Trent, Session 14, Canon 6).
    http://www.justforcatholics.org/a23.htm

145 posted on 02/25/2019 11:39:58 AM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: boatbums

IOW, you have to agree with us, even contrary with the plain, clear teaching ofmmScripture. or you’re going to hell.


146 posted on 02/25/2019 11:52:57 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: boatbums
Interesting that the quote from the "Catechism" comes from the Modernist JPII Catechism and that there is NO reference to another Catholic source in it at all. I wouldn't trust that as far as I can throw it.

From reading other Catholic sources, it appears that although public confession was used in the early days, it was not mandatory and that private confession had also been used since the beginning.

167 posted on 02/26/2019 5:17:02 AM PST by piusv
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