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To: boatbums
Where do you think Jesus Christ descended to upon His death?

To have a hi-ball with Lucifer?

106 posted on 11/05/2018 7:15:39 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
"Where do you think Jesus Christ descended to upon His death?"

What's the basis for believing Jesus descended into Hell? The closest I can think of is 1 Peter 3:18-22.

Note that I included verses 21 and 22. So if you say that verse 19's and 20's description of Jesus going to visit the spirits of people in prison is proof enough that Jesus went to Hell, then surely the next verse (21) is a valid teaching about baptism...even though it describes baptism being an appeal to God for a good conscience.

So I ask you, if I say that verses 19 and 20 mean purgatory exists today (not something that was done away with after Jesus' death and resurrection, maybe as a placeholder for Old Testament deaths), will you concede that the very next couple of New Testament verses also say infant baptism is worthless (because babies ain't old enough to appeal to God for a good conscience)?

113 posted on 11/05/2018 7:30:17 PM PST by Tell It Right (Put everything to the test. Hold fast to that which is true. 1st Thess 5:21)
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To: ebb tide
Scripture says of Jesus, "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) (Ephesians 4:8-10)

I believe that Jesus went to the Paradise compartment of Hades (AKA Abraham's Bosom (Luke 16:19-31) and:

    He proclaimed to them the mystery of the gospel, and then led them into heaven to dwell with God. The belief is that they were not permitted to enter into the presence of God in heaven until after the atonement. Once that had happened, Jesus, who had died, descended to Abraham's bosom, proclaimed the gospel, and then led its residents into heaven.

    So, even though we cannot precisely determine where Jesus was and what He did during those three days, it seems apparent that He presented the gospel message (not to have them get saved) to those in spirit prison and possibly also to those in Abraham's bosom. https://carm.org/where-did-jesus-go-after-he-died-cross

That place doesn't exists anymore since Jesus opened the gates of heaven by His perfect sacrifice. It was NEVER called "purgatory", it was NOT ever seen as a place of cleansing or punishment, but a holding place for the redeemed until Christ came. Why would you think God would still put souls there? Don't you believe that the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from ALL sin? Do you think His suffering was not enough?

123 posted on 11/05/2018 7:57:24 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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