[NorthMountain]

In case you missed the point:

You're complaining about Paul VI, and Abp. Bugnini, and the "New Mass".

I reminded you of where Montini and Bugnini came from.

VATICAN II DID NOT HAPPEN IN A VACUUM.

The rot which exploded in Vatican II festered and suppurated in the "Traditional Catholicism" of the XIX and early-mid XX Centuries.

The "Traditional Catholicism" of the future, if it is to be any better than the "Traditional Catholicism" of the past that produced Vatican II, must learn from history. The first step is admitting that the history exists. I urge you to take that first step.

[ebb tide]

The rot which exploded in Vatican II festered and suppurated in the "Traditional Catholicism" of the XIX and early-mid XX Centuries.

Will you fess up and admit that "modernism" is the cause of that rot? And VC II is a result of that "rot"?