[NorthMountain]

VCII does not get a pass

I NEVER SAID IT DID!!!!

QUIT PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

QUIT ATTRIBUTING MOTIVE (FALSELY) TO ME.

Now, read what I wrote. Every bit of it is true.

Simply going back to whatever it is that you feel to be "Traditional Catholicism" WILL NOT HELP, unless we also take serious, meaningful, effective steps to keep sodomites, heretics, and infidels OUT of the clergy and religious life.

PASCENDI DOMINICI GREGIS did not keep the sodomites, heretics, and infidels out of the clergy and religious orders.

[ebb tide]

So you have resorted to shouting now?

Simply going back to whatever it is that you feel to be "Traditional Catholicism" WILL NOT HELP, unless we also take serious, meaningful, effective steps to keep sodomites, heretics, and infidels OUT of the clergy and religious life.

Are you kidding?

This is how "Traditional Catholicism" handled sodomite clergy:

Here’s how one saintly pope would clean up gay orgies at the Vatican

FYI: Pope St Pius V was what you call a "traditional Catholic".