[NorthMountain]

Every priest, bishop, cardinal at the Second Vatican Council was raised, educated and ordained in "Traditional Catholicism". Every sister, brother, priest, bishop, cardinal in the first generation of implementing the "Spirit of Vatican II" was raised, educated, and ordained (or took vows) in "Traditional Catholicism".

Simply returning to "Traditional Catholicism" will NOT solve our problems. Our problems germinated and grew in "Traditional Catholicism".

[ebb tide]

Not every priest, bishop, cardinal and lay Catholic, at the time, bought into VCII. And those who didn’t were persecuted mercilessly.

VCII doesn’t get a pass.

[ebb tide]

Every sister, brother, priest, bishop, cardinal in the first generation of implementing the "Spirit of Vatican II" was raised, educated, and ordained (or took vows) in "Traditional Catholicism".

Name me every sister, brother, priest, bishop and cardinal of that time who protested or rejected the VC II novelites. Name every priest and sister during that time who left their vocations, or even their faith, during that time and I'll gladly continue the "discussion".

You may want to give VCII a pass; but I will never do so.

[TradicalRC]

Are you under the impression that there was no infiltration of the Church hierarchy by Freemasons, communists and sodomites? Or is that too *conspiratorial* for you?

[fortes fortuna juvat]

>>Every priest, bishop, cardinal at the Second Vatican Council was raised, educated and ordained in “Traditional Catholicism”. Every sister, brother, priest, bishop, cardinal in the first generation of implementing the “Spirit of Vatican II” was raised, educated, and ordained (or took vows) in “Traditional Catholicism”.<<

This statement could be entirely true but it completely obfuscates the reality that those who orchestrated the radical changes of the Council that have damn near destroyed the Church and made it the most prominent institution of ridicule in the modern world WERE and ARE the very people you’re attempting to defend.